Unknown Luger mag?

pisto · 02-27-2003, 04:34 AM

Hello, IÃ?Â´m new here in this forum. I have collected Lugers for several years, as well as brooms.
During my collectors life, I have seen many things, I can easily recognize items as original or not - on the other hand IÃ?Â´m still suspicious.
So with this parkerized Luger magazine:

- extruded body
- alu cast bottom
- steel casted follower
- dot with concentic circels

[http://C:\Eigene Dateien/unbek. Lugermagazin.jpg[/IMG]

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Lugerdoc · 02-27-2003, 09:05 AM

Pisto, The mag that you describe (I presume that the dot with the concentric circles, is the follower button) is a post WW2 Danish production. Quite often the bottoms are marked "made in Denmark" and if not, there is always a slight flaw in the casting. Tom H.

John Sabato · 02-27-2003, 11:57 AM

Roland,

Please see my edits to you posting above...

John Sabato · 02-27-2003, 04:42 PM

Good Job on the photo upload PISTO!

Now just one more correction now that we can see the magazine... it is not extruded (like an FXO magazine) it is formed sheet metal... if that makes any difference in the determination of the mag type...

Can you show a photo of the dot with concentric circles now that you know how to post them?

pisto · 02-27-2003, 05:57 PM

John, thanks for the flowers!
I mean the circles on the dot of the follower.

Silvereagle29 · 03-01-2003, 12:39 AM

Hi
If not marked "Denmark" think Portugal in 1940, a few Lugers went with blue bodies. The portuguese "parkerized' a bunch of these magazines along with many of the P 08's (42-byf). I have a couple that came from Portugal via Canada. Also a "parkerized" looking 1940-42 in the - z - block with a "parkerized" looking rolled tin matching magazine. I would like to think my 1940-42 and your "parkerized" looking magazines were Mauser "experimental" units. Wishful thinking, but don't have a concrete answer. Good Luck
Don

pisto · 03-01-2003, 02:53 AM

Don, thats really interesting and makes my mag more desirable! I donÃ?Â´t know why, but I thought of Portugal too, because I did here some day that they used parkerized mags. By the way, I got that from a buddy in Canada too. So I hope I can see a Denmark mag one day to compare.

Roland

Lugerdoc · 03-01-2003, 10:00 AM

Roland, You already have the Danish mag as shown in your photo above. The only mags that I've seen that were correct for the late 42/BYF m&n suffix Portugese PO8s, were blued extruded Schmeisser FXO mags, usually with unnumbered aluminum bottoms and with the serial number later engraved on the spine. Tom H.

02-27-2003, 04:34 AM	#1
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Unknown Luger mag? Hello, IÃ?Â´m new here in this forum. I have collected Lugers for several years, as well as brooms. During my collectors life, I have seen many things, I can easily recognize items as original or not - on the other hand IÃ?Â´m still suspicious. So with this parkerized Luger magazine: - extruded body - alu cast bottom - steel casted follower - dot with concentic circels [http://C:\Eigene Dateien/unbek. Lugermagazin.jpg[/IMG] (Language Corrections made by ADMIN-John Sabato for readability...hope you don't mind, Your photo must be uploaded to the forum server in order to be shown in your post. Use this link to upload your photo http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/lfupload.html and then copy the URL provided to put the photo in your post to make it visible.)

02-27-2003, 09:05 AM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Pisto, The mag that you describe (I presume that the dot with the concentric circles, is the follower button) is a post WW2 Danish production. Quite often the bottoms are marked "made in Denmark" and if not, there is always a slight flaw in the casting. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-27-2003, 11:57 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Roland, Please see my edits to you posting above... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-27-2003, 04:42 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Good Job on the photo upload PISTO! Now just one more correction now that we can see the magazine... it is not extruded (like an FXO magazine) it is formed sheet metal... if that makes any difference in the determination of the mag type... Can you show a photo of the dot with concentric circles now that you know how to post them? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-01-2003, 10:00 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Roland, You already have the Danish mag as shown in your photo above. The only mags that I've seen that were correct for the late 42/BYF m&n suffix Portugese PO8s, were blued extruded Schmeisser FXO mags, usually with unnumbered aluminum bottoms and with the serial number later engraved on the spine. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-27-2003, 05:57 PM	#5
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John, thanks for the flowers! I mean the circles on the dot of the follower.

03-01-2003, 12:39 AM	#6
Silvereagle29 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Hi If not marked "Denmark" think Portugal in 1940, a few Lugers went with blue bodies. The portuguese "parkerized' a bunch of these magazines along with many of the P 08's (42-byf). I have a couple that came from Portugal via Canada. Also a "parkerized" looking 1940-42 in the - z - block with a "parkerized" looking rolled tin matching magazine. I would like to think my 1940-42 and your "parkerized" looking magazines were Mauser "experimental" units. Wishful thinking, but don't have a concrete answer. Good Luck Don

03-01-2003, 02:53 AM	#7
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don, thats really interesting and makes my mag more desirable! I donÃ?Â´t know why, but I thought of Portugal too, because I did here some day that they used parkerized mags. By the way, I got that from a buddy in Canada too. So I hope I can see a Denmark mag one day to compare. Roland