Odd 1917 Erfurt barrel proof mark

Doug G. · 08-01-2017, 11:40 PM

I think I posted this long ago, but no one knew what it was. Took it up to Simpsons and he had no clue either.

Vlim · 08-02-2017, 05:04 AM

Any markings under the barrel?

Doug G. · 08-02-2017, 06:41 PM

Standard markings, barrel is numbered to the gun.

DonVoigt · 08-02-2017, 07:38 PM

Doug,
I've seen pictures of that mark, but can't remember where - I am straining to remember that it may be related to Tikka?

Perhaps it will come to me. CRS strikes again.

DavidJayUden · 08-02-2017, 10:58 PM

There are no halos around the frame numbers suggesting refinish. Could the T come from the rebuild?
Also, is there a bore diameter under the barrel?
dju

sheepherder · 08-03-2017, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

Could the T come from the rebuild?

I thought it looked like a little hammer, like blacksmiths use.

DonVoigt · 08-03-2017, 09:27 AM

Third party inspeciton marking? Maybe Finland or ??? , inspected and approved/repaired before refinishing.

I've looked in all (both) marking reference books I have, and the closest is a Finn marking, of a T in a circle and later two "L" lookingmarks, but upside down and facing with the short leg away from each other. I know, clear as mud and very helpful.

Rich,
agree, could be a hammer- Thor's hammer- maybe one of the Nordic countries.

All just my pure speculation at this time.

I think not the original barrel, as it has no bore diameter designation.

LU1900 · 08-03-2017, 12:26 PM

Hammer in a cercle is not for Hammerli ?
Ask for some owner using K31 , barrel hammerli or sig have trade mark

RichSr · 08-03-2017, 12:54 PM

It must be a rebarrel. The barrel seems to be missing the usual Erfurt proof marks in addition to having no bore diameter marking.

Vlim · 08-03-2017, 02:02 PM

It could be a dealer marking as well.

08-01-2017, 11:40 PM	#1
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Odd 1917 Erfurt barrel proof mark I think I posted this long ago, but no one knew what it was. Took it up to Simpsons and he had no clue either. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

08-02-2017, 06:41 PM	#3
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Standard markings, barrel is numbered to the gun. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

08-02-2017, 07:38 PM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,354 Times in 2,041 Posts	Doug, I've seen pictures of that mark, but can't remember where - I am straining to remember that it may be related to Tikka? Perhaps it will come to me. CRS strikes again. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-03-2017, 09:27 AM	#7
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,354 Times in 2,041 Posts	Third party inspeciton marking? Maybe Finland or ??? , inspected and approved/repaired before refinishing. I've looked in all (both) marking reference books I have, and the closest is a Finn marking, of a T in a circle and later two "L" lookingmarks, but upside down and facing with the short leg away from each other. I know, clear as mud and very helpful. Rich, agree, could be a hammer- Thor's hammer- maybe one of the Nordic countries. All just my pure speculation at this time. I think not the original barrel, as it has no bore diameter designation. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-03-2017, 12:26 PM	#8
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 911 Thanks: 46 Thanked 471 Times in 198 Posts	Hammer in a cercle is not for Hammerli ? Ask for some owner using K31 , barrel hammerli or sig have trade mark __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

08-02-2017, 05:04 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Any markings under the barrel?

08-02-2017, 10:58 PM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	There are no halos around the frame numbers suggesting refinish. Could the T come from the rebuild? Also, is there a bore diameter under the barrel? dju

08-03-2017, 12:54 PM	#9
RichSr User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 128 Thanks: 154 Thanked 54 Times in 36 Posts	It must be a rebarrel. The barrel seems to be missing the usual Erfurt proof marks in addition to having no bore diameter marking. __________________ Rich

08-03-2017, 02:02 PM	#10
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	It could be a dealer marking as well.