Found some neat looking display Lugers.

[Terry Tiell]

They're "cap firing model" guns. Kinda pricey but nice looking figured I'd share with you guys. They also have ALL sorts of other "model guns".

http://www.wwiiguns.com/store/product_catalog.php?c=5

[nukem556]

$338.00 takes you about halfway to a real shooter Luger.....don't see the point.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Terry Tiell

They also have ALL sorts of other "model guns".

They're also a scam. They took me for $306.43 back in Dec 2012, but my bank was able to cancel the charges.

They also go under the name of Tokyo Toy Distribution, headed by -

Miki Nakamura
President
Tokyo Toy Distribution

Asagaya Kita 2-26-17
Voga Asagaya 101
Tokyo 166-0001
JAPAN
Tel +81 3 3336 7075
Fax +81 3 3336 7075
Email: sales@tokyotoydistribution.com

Company website
http://www.tokyotoydistribution.com

Our divisions
http://www.wwiiguns.com
http://www.modelgunsinternational.com
http://www.specialforcesweapons.com
http://www.vietnamwar-guns.com
http://www.tokyohobby.net

Tokyo Toy Distribution YouTube channel
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?us...oydistribution


Obviously, caveat emptor.

[Terry Tiell]

Sheephearder, thanks for the heads up I'll make sure I never order from them.

Mods please lock or delete this thread as you see fit. I don't want to promote someplace that screwed another member over.

[sheepherder]

Their claim is that the various modelgun manufacturers only produce certain models at one time of year, then they go on to the next model. If they're out of a certain modelgun, they put you on 'backorder', which can mean when production starts up again (for that model) the next year. Meanwhile, they must have your full CC payment to insure that your order is reserved/processed promptly.

I kept all my emails. Here's an amusing excerpt -

Hello Richard,

Thank you for your order with us and our apologies for having kept you waiting. Your sea mail shipment number is CD056305414JP and you can expect delivery sometime end of next month or early March.

If you have any other questions or require assistance please contact us
again.

Best regards,

Miki Nakamura
President
Tokyo Toy Distribution

Asagaya Kita 2-26-17
Voga Asagaya 101
Tokyo 166-0001
JAPAN
Tel +81 3 3336 7075
Fax +81 3 3336 7075
Email: sales@tokyotoydistribution.com

Company website
http://www.tokyotoydistribution.com

Our divisions
http://www.wwiiguns.com
http://www.modelgunsinternational.com
http://www.specialforcesweapons.com
http://www.vietnamwar-guns.com
http://www.tokyohobby.net

Tokyo Toy Distribution YouTube channel
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?us...oydistribution

That was sent to me in January. My sea shipment never showed up. There is [supposedly] a deadline for disputing CC charges, but my bank at that time was HSBC and handled canceling the charges.

BTW, I was able to get the Marushin modelgun I wanted on eBay.

[sheepherder]

Here's something else I found out when I ordered a part from Latvia...

The number they quote you (like in the email above) is not the number on the item; it's the container number. 45 or 90 foot shipping container; the shipper stocks it full and ships all orders for that country together. When you 'track' your order, you're actually tracking the container. Your item is only scanned if it goes in or out. The container may be opened at various places in the destination country, or only once at their hub. DHL was the shipping service I used from Latvia, and the part I ordered was 'mislaid' somewhere along the way. It went through several DHL distribution centers along the way, and the last time anyone actually saw the item I had paid for (from Latvia) was in Germany just before leaving for the US. The seller had insured it, and they were reimbursed and shipped me another replacement item. That one got through, but in the meantime the US representative of DHL Service (a very pleasant girl) kept me informed of everything that they were doing to try to find the missing shipment. It turned out that the container was sealed in Germany and not opened until it arrived in Ohio, USA.

There are many cases in The Naked City. This has been one of them.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Terry Tiell

Mods please lock or delete this thread as you see fit.

You can delete a thread that YOU started by clicking on Thread Tools in the toolbar, select Moderation Tools, Delete Thread, Perform Action. You can only delete threads that YOU started.

[Bill_in_VA]

Originally Posted by Terry Tiell

Sheephearder, thanks for the heads up I'll make sure I never order from them.

Mods please lock or delete this thread as you see fit. I don't want to promote someplace that screwed another member over.

Why delete it? Why not leave it up as a warning so others don't find out the hard way too?

[lugerholsterrepair]

Man! I have to agree! Even if they sent you a $338.00 toy Luger over night it would be a scam!

[Terry Tiell]

Originally Posted by Bill_in_VA

Why delete it? Why not leave it up as a warning so others don't find out the hard way too?

Good point.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Bill_in_VA

Why delete it? Why not leave it up as a warning so others don't find out the hard way too?

No one likes to be the 'bad guy'. TTD's practices may be perfectly acceptable in Japan. There is an excellent web site devoted to modelguns -

http://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/

There, and from other forum members from/in Japan, I learned that the space restrictions in Japan are such that the same manufacturing 'plant' must conduct their operations in 'batches'. Casting plastic parts for a month (or 250 units), then switch over to casting or machining metal parts for a month/250 units, then switch over to assembling, then producing box inserts, then printing instructions/boxes (or arranging for it), etc. All in the same 'plant'. There is some sub-contracting but most parts are proprietary. There is some overlap, similar operations for different models. 250 units/year seems to be an industry norm.

If the 250 units are sold out, or pre-sold, then new orders are SOL...Until the next run...Which can be the next year...

I don't like this distributors practices...[TTD]...But in context, it is understandable...If you're willing to wait...

Was my experience typical??? I don't know...Some don't think so...Some think it is acceptable to have to wait...

You pays you money and you takes you chances...