That little pin in the toggle...

Olle · 04-24-2013, 06:52 PM

When examining my newly acquired basket case, I saw that the pin that holds the "knee joint" pin in place was gone. Upon closer examination, I found that the large pin was some kind of home made contraption, so I made a new one.

Now I need to go through my junk to find a small pin to hold in place. Does anybody know the dimensions, diameter and length, so I know what to look for? It would also be good to know how to install it, I assume that it goes in far enough to lock the pin in place, but not far enough to hit the extension rail?

Geo99 · 04-25-2013, 01:23 AM

Tom Heller will sell you a new pin for a few bucks.

- Geo

Olle · 04-25-2013, 08:11 AM

I know, but I want to test fire this weekend...

ithacaartist · 04-25-2013, 09:34 AM

Olle,

The hole may be too large for an original pin to stay in place. A handy way to come up with impromptu small pins that are slightly oversize is to check an index of numbered drill bits for a shank that will fit better. The bits of the numbered format vary in diameter by steps of as little as .001". Proper heat treating may ultimately be in order, but this would be a good start.

John Sabato · 04-25-2013, 09:41 AM

The little pin (VonTiegelflusstahldraht, Federhart) that goes in this hole is 1.5mm in diameter (Durchmesser) (with -0.05mm tolerance); and 7.2mm long (lang) (with + or - 0.1mm tolerance).

Buy the Blueprint CD for many more interesting facts about your Lugers. (Yes, another shameless plug for my Blueprint CD!

)

Olle · 04-25-2013, 05:00 PM

Thanks, guys!

I actually got my number drill set out and gauged the hole last night. A 1.48mm bit slipped through and the next one wouldn't, so I figured that 1.5mm was the correct diameter. Seems like this was correct.

I made a new pin from a broken 1.5mm drill bit, the hole was a bit wallered out but it "felt right" as I tapped the pin through it. It should stay in place just fine, or as they say here in TN: "It ain't goin' nowhere".

And yes, those drawings are still on the wish list!

Ian Ox · 06-05-2013, 04:11 PM

Is there a good source for the various pins or do you make them? I need a recoil lever pin and the little trigger bar plunger pin (and the little spring as well).
Thanks - Ian

Olle · 06-05-2013, 06:20 PM

Tom "Lugerdoc" Heller ( http://forum.lugerforum.com/member.php?u=32 ) is your best bet when it comes to Luger parts.

04-24-2013, 06:52 PM	#1
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 663 Times in 318 Posts	That little pin in the toggle... When examining my newly acquired basket case, I saw that the pin that holds the "knee joint" pin in place was gone. Upon closer examination, I found that the large pin was some kind of home made contraption, so I made a new one. Now I need to go through my junk to find a small pin to hold in place. Does anybody know the dimensions, diameter and length, so I know what to look for? It would also be good to know how to install it, I assume that it goes in far enough to lock the pin in place, but not far enough to hit the extension rail?

04-25-2013, 09:34 AM	#4
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,290 Thanks: 7,055 Thanked 2,482 Times in 1,323 Posts	Olle, The hole may be too large for an original pin to stay in place. A handy way to come up with impromptu small pins that are slightly oversize is to check an index of numbered drill bits for a shank that will fit better. The bits of the numbered format vary in diameter by steps of as little as .001". Proper heat treating may ultimately be in order, but this would be a good start. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

04-25-2013, 09:41 AM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	The little pin (VonTiegelflusstahldraht, Federhart) that goes in this hole is 1.5mm in diameter (Durchmesser) (with -0.05mm tolerance); and 7.2mm long (lang) (with + or - 0.1mm tolerance). Buy the Blueprint CD for many more interesting facts about your Lugers. (Yes, another shameless plug for my Blueprint CD! ) __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-05-2013, 04:11 PM	#7
Ian Ox User Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North America Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	on the subject of Luger pins Is there a good source for the various pins or do you make them? I need a recoil lever pin and the little trigger bar plunger pin (and the little spring as well). Thanks - Ian

04-25-2013, 01:23 AM	#2
Geo99 User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whidbey Island WA Posts: 398 Thanks: 102 Thanked 125 Times in 74 Posts	Tom Heller will sell you a new pin for a few bucks. - Geo

04-25-2013, 08:11 AM	#3
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 663 Times in 318 Posts	I know, but I want to test fire this weekend...

04-25-2013, 05:00 PM	#6
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 663 Times in 318 Posts	Thanks, guys! I actually got my number drill set out and gauged the hole last night. A 1.48mm bit slipped through and the next one wouldn't, so I figured that 1.5mm was the correct diameter. Seems like this was correct. I made a new pin from a broken 1.5mm drill bit, the hole was a bit wallered out but it "felt right" as I tapped the pin through it. It should stay in place just fine, or as they say here in TN: "It ain't goin' nowhere". And yes, those drawings are still on the wish list!

06-05-2013, 06:20 PM	#8
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 663 Times in 318 Posts	Tom "Lugerdoc" Heller ( http://forum.lugerforum.com/member.php?u=32 ) is your best bet when it comes to Luger parts.