Snail drum magazine ...

SIGP2101 · 01-18-2013, 11:13 PM

... blueprint I bumped into today by surfing the net. Actually this blueprint has
"Infanterie - KonstruktionsBureau Spandau, Den 1. November 1916"
writen in lower right corner. It looks like it's showing type I Trommelmagazine made by AEG with telescopic winding handle.

Does anyone know more about this? Did Spandau made blueprints and distributed them for production to various manufacturers or Spandau manufactured some snail drum magazines as well?

SIGP2101

lugerholsterrepair · 01-18-2013, 11:32 PM

I have never seen or heard about any Spandau manufactured snail drum magazines ?

Edward Tinker · 01-19-2013, 12:17 AM

I would love to see the blueprints

Sounds like they are design prints of the snail drum -
were they for possible military usage in case they needed more?
was the drums made by civilians under contract?

SIGP2101 · 01-19-2013, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I would love to see the blueprints

Here is the blueprint.

George Anderson · 01-19-2013, 09:48 AM

As the chief arsenal I believe Spandau was responsible for jobbing out all arms manufacture.

Lugerdoc · 01-19-2013, 10:16 AM

Spandau may have been more directly involved in sub-ing out a feeding device for the 9mm Bergman SMG. TH

charly239 · 01-19-2013, 02:57 PM

This is a blueprint from a technial Drawing Office
Not from the Spandau Factory
Regards thomas

SIGP2101 · 01-25-2013, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charly239

This is a blueprint from a technial Drawing Office
Not from the Spandau Factory
Regards thomas

Actually it is from "Infantry Construction Bureau - Spandau". Me wondering what it was doing there unless it was there for the purpose of testing and evaluating MP18. My guess is drawing is helpful when recommending improvements. Being named P08 didn't make any difference to bureau since both weapons used same feeding device.

John Sabato · 01-25-2013, 03:32 PM

This "free" image above is apparently a very much reduced/compressed version of the TM-08 blueprint "bonus" that is included on the P.08 Blueprint CD that I sell. (See the "sticky" at the top of the FOR SALE forum).

The version above is only 158Kbytes in size and you can't magnify it to see the details clearly... the version on my CD is over 6 Megabytes in size and you can zoom in and see all the details clearly...

Here is an example of the level of detail that is available on the CD... try zooming in on the same portion of the drawing above and you will see the difference in image quality...

I scanned the blueprints at 600 dpi and then painstakingly removed all the stray marks in the scan that were possible without degrading the images... I guess the old adage is true... you get what you pay for

Ed, you already own a copy of my CD

01-18-2013, 11:13 PM	#1
SIGP2101 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 67 Times in 32 Posts	Snail drum magazine ... ... blueprint I bumped into today by surfing the net. Actually this blueprint has "Infanterie - KonstruktionsBureau Spandau, Den 1. November 1916" writen in lower right corner. It looks like it's showing type I Trommelmagazine made by AEG with telescopic winding handle. Does anyone know more about this? Did Spandau made blueprints and distributed them for production to various manufacturers or Spandau manufactured some snail drum magazines as well? SIGP2101

01-18-2013, 11:32 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,922 Thanked 3,123 Times in 1,434 Posts	I have never seen or heard about any Spandau manufactured snail drum magazines ? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-19-2013, 10:16 AM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Spandau may have been more directly involved in sub-ing out a feeding device for the 9mm Bergman SMG. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-25-2013, 03:32 PM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	This "free" image above is apparently a very much reduced/compressed version of the TM-08 blueprint "bonus" that is included on the P.08 Blueprint CD that I sell. (See the "sticky" at the top of the FOR SALE forum). The version above is only 158Kbytes in size and you can't magnify it to see the details clearly... the version on my CD is over 6 Megabytes in size and you can zoom in and see all the details clearly... Here is an example of the level of detail that is available on the CD... try zooming in on the same portion of the drawing above and you will see the difference in image quality... I scanned the blueprints at 600 dpi and then painstakingly removed all the stray marks in the scan that were possible without degrading the images... I guess the old adage is true... you get what you pay for Ed, you already own a copy of my CD Attached Thumbnails __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-19-2013, 12:17 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	I would love to see the blueprints Sounds like they are design prints of the snail drum - were they for possible military usage in case they needed more? was the drums made by civilians under contract?

01-19-2013, 09:48 AM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	As the chief arsenal I believe Spandau was responsible for jobbing out all arms manufacture.

01-19-2013, 02:57 PM	#7
charly239 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 211 Thanks: 16 Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts	This is a blueprint from a technial Drawing Office Not from the Spandau Factory Regards thomas