DWM Commercial?

mdc888 · 11-11-2010, 10:08 AM

I have recently obtained this DWM 30 cal. and I am not sure exactly what it is. I am posting pictures here in the hopes that other members can provide insight and possibly value for insurance purposes. Thank you for any help in identifying this Luger. Mike

FNorm · 11-11-2010, 10:48 AM

Looks to be a DWM 'Alphabet' commercial, serial 2829M, that was made about late 1923 to early 1924. The mid toggle link is mismatched and marked 32. The retaining pin in the left toggle head is missing.

The mag for an alphabet usually has a wood bottom.
FN

drbuster · 11-11-2010, 11:02 AM

With its poor finish, mis-matched toggle and missing toggle pin, in this deflated environment, ths is, at best, a "shooter" valued at $600-$800, in my view.

sheepherder · 11-11-2010, 11:12 AM

Might just be distortion of the picture, but the takedown lever looks bent outward...

Edward Tinker · 11-11-2010, 11:48 AM

Because of condition, I think $600 is pushing it and being in 30 luger (7.65mm) I think you'd be lucky to get that and problably closer to $500 if selling at a show...

I would comment that although you'd expect a wood magazine, a stamped 'germany' aluminum is also seen and could have been original, as aluminum was used as early as 1925 (i.e. simson mags)

Ed

MFC · 11-12-2010, 12:38 AM

The mag alone is worth around $200+. You don't see GERMANY marked aluminum bottom commercial mags that often.

Lugerdoc · 11-12-2010, 08:13 AM

IMHO mags marked "Germany" whether wood or metal bottomed, were imported into the US separately as spares. Had they been imported in a pistol, there would have been no requirement to mark them, as the pistol would be marked. TH

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mdc888 User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	DWM Commercial? I have recently obtained this DWM 30 cal. and I am not sure exactly what it is. I am posting pictures here in the hopes that other members can provide insight and possibly value for insurance purposes. Thank you for any help in identifying this Luger. Mike Attached Thumbnails

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FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Looks to be a DWM 'Alphabet' commercial, serial 2829M, that was made about late 1923 to early 1924. The mid toggle link is mismatched and marked 32. The retaining pin in the left toggle head is missing. The mag for an alphabet usually has a wood bottom. FN Last edited by FNorm; 11-11-2010 at 10:55 AM. Reason: sp

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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,441 Times in 2,329 Posts	Might just be distortion of the picture, but the takedown lever looks bent outward... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Because of condition, I think $600 is pushing it and being in 30 luger (7.65mm) I think you'd be lucky to get that and problably closer to $500 if selling at a show... I would comment that although you'd expect a wood magazine, a stamped 'germany' aluminum is also seen and could have been original, as aluminum was used as early as 1925 (i.e. simson mags) Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-12-2010, 12:38 AM	#6
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	The mag alone is worth around $200+. You don't see GERMANY marked aluminum bottom commercial mags that often. __________________ Mike C.

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drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	With its poor finish, mis-matched toggle and missing toggle pin, in this deflated environment, ths is, at best, a "shooter" valued at $600-$800, in my view.

11-12-2010, 08:13 AM	#7
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	IMHO mags marked "Germany" whether wood or metal bottomed, were imported into the US separately as spares. Had they been imported in a pistol, there would have been no requirement to mark them, as the pistol would be marked. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net