Picture of a Punch

paid4c4 · 08-12-2010, 06:05 PM

Gentlemen, I recently purchased a 1915 holster for my 1915 DWM Luger. Inside the flap of the holster there is a leather pouch which has places for a take down tool and a punch. I have acquired a proper tool but haven't found a punch. I would like to see what a punch looks like, would anyone have a photo of a punch. I would just like to see what I'm missing.
Thank You;
Bill

fred p · 08-12-2010, 06:54 PM

might be for a cleaning rod? I can't think of any reason for a punch. would like to see a pic of the holster. I am sure someone more knowledgeable than me can help more.

Ron Smith · 08-12-2010, 06:58 PM

Bill,

I found it. The coin is a dime for relative size.

Ron

Ron Smith · 08-12-2010, 07:25 PM

Fred,

I sold the holster to Bill. It was a very nice 1915,but somewhat unusual in that the tool pouch was extra wide with an integral stitched in 'take down punch' pouch.

It's nothing like the later Weimar era police and military holsters converted to hold a cleaning rod.

Ron

fred p · 08-12-2010, 08:17 PM

thanks Ron. I have much to learn.

If I only had the capacity to retain the good info I find here I would be a happy camper. CRS sucks.

paid4c4 · 08-12-2010, 09:07 PM

Ron, I hate to ask but is the punch for sale?
Bill

FNorm · 08-12-2010, 09:58 PM

Don't know if they're authentic, but Simpsons has them, under luger accessories:

https://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php...fdfdbebfdb1f95

FN

ratdog · 08-25-2010, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNorm

Don't know if they're authentic, but Simpsons has them, under luger accessories:

https://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php...fdfdbebfdb1f95

FN

Simpsons selling them for 10$, my guess is no on original...........

Vlim · 08-25-2010, 04:00 PM

I think anyone with a lathe and some spare time could make you one

sheepherder · 08-25-2010, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

I think anyone with a lathe and some spare time could make you one

Out of brass??? For $10??? Buy the one at Simpson's...

paid4c4 · 08-25-2010, 08:11 PM

The one from Simpson's should be here tomorrow!
I'll post pictures of the take down tool and the punch in the holster pocket.
Bill

Ron Wood · 08-25-2010, 09:43 PM

You can chuck up a nail in a redneck lathe (an electric drill clamped in a vise) and turn one out with a file. Takes some time and you need to fire up your Bernzomatic torch to heat treat it. But for free and a little care you would be hard pressed to tell it from an original. You can buy one from Simpsons but a did-it-my-ownself is kinda satisfying.

By the way, the only two uses for a pin punch that I can tell is to push out the pin that holds in the magazine bottom, and to drift out the pin that secures the thumb safety (which isn't too likely). Can't think of any other operations that would be done by a soldier in the field. Any other ideas?

FNorm · 08-25-2010, 09:47 PM

It also pushes out the pin for the extractor. Amazing the dirt in there sometimes.

FN

A.Mifsin · 08-26-2010, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

I think anyone with a lathe and some spare time could make you one

Any dimensions to make it look like an original please?
Alf.

Mauser720 · 08-26-2010, 11:13 AM

Alf -

Here are the dimensions of a "reputable" reproduction:

Total length of the pin punch (tip to tip) = 57.05 mm
Diameter of the handle = 4.72 mm
Diameter of the punch = 1.55 mm
Length of the punch = 16.06 mm (slight bevel where the punch enters the handle)
Effective length of the punch = 15.02 mm (not including the bevel near the handle)

Lugerdoc · 08-26-2010, 11:30 AM

Ron & Norm, In addition to the extractor pin, it's the only punch in my inventory small enough to remove the pin from the LPO8 rear sight and the toggle lock on a M1900 rear link. TH PS: You can turn it down a bit more for removing the pin holding the disconnector plunger into the trigger bar.

A.Mifsin · 08-26-2010, 11:31 AM

Many Thanks Ron

Alf

whcoyote · 10-15-2010, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

You can chuck up a nail in a redneck lathe (an electric drill clamped in a vise) and turn one out with a file. Takes some time and you need to fire up your Bernzomatic torch to heat treat it. But for free and a little care you would be hard pressed to tell it from an original. You can buy one from Simpsons but a did-it-my-ownself is kinda satisfying.

By the way, the only two uses for a pin punch that I can tell is to push out the pin that holds in the magazine bottom, and to drift out the pin that secures the thumb safety (which isn't too likely). Can't think of any other operations that would be done by a soldier in the field. Any other ideas?

Ron:
My experience is that a nail does not have enough Carbon content to harden very well. I think something like a piece of drill rod would work better - file it to shape and then heat it cherry red and quench it in water (Do not use a drill, use drill rod. This is the stuff they make drills out of but it hasn't been hardened yet) Then polish it bright with wet/dry emery cloth (400 grit). Apply heat to the head (hammer end) and watch very carefully as the color runs down the punch to the tip. When the straw color gets to the tip, remove the heat IMMEDIATELY!! Polish it back bright and you have a nice tool.

08-12-2010, 06:05 PM	#1
paid4c4 User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 62 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Picture of a Punch Gentlemen, I recently purchased a 1915 holster for my 1915 DWM Luger. Inside the flap of the holster there is a leather pouch which has places for a take down tool and a punch. I have acquired a proper tool but haven't found a punch. I would like to see what a punch looks like, would anyone have a photo of a punch. I would just like to see what I'm missing. Thank You; Bill

08-12-2010, 06:54 PM	#2
fred p User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: N.C. usa Posts: 86 Thanks: 10 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	might be for a cleaning rod? I can't think of any reason for a punch. would like to see a pic of the holster. I am sure someone more knowledgeable than me can help more. __________________ if it's broke I'll either fix it or I'll fix it so no one else can fix it.

08-12-2010, 07:25 PM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Fred, I sold the holster to Bill. It was a very nice 1915,but somewhat unusual in that the tool pouch was extra wide with an integral stitched in 'take down punch' pouch. It's nothing like the later Weimar era police and military holsters converted to hold a cleaning rod. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

08-12-2010, 08:17 PM	#5
fred p User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: N.C. usa Posts: 86 Thanks: 10 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	thanks Ron. I have much to learn. If I only had the capacity to retain the good info I find here I would be a happy camper. CRS sucks. __________________ if it's broke I'll either fix it or I'll fix it so no one else can fix it.

08-25-2010, 09:43 PM	#12
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,051 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 5,287 Times in 1,728 Posts	You can chuck up a nail in a redneck lathe (an electric drill clamped in a vise) and turn one out with a file. Takes some time and you need to fire up your Bernzomatic torch to heat treat it. But for free and a little care you would be hard pressed to tell it from an original. You can buy one from Simpsons but a did-it-my-ownself is kinda satisfying. By the way, the only two uses for a pin punch that I can tell is to push out the pin that holds in the magazine bottom, and to drift out the pin that secures the thumb safety (which isn't too likely). Can't think of any other operations that would be done by a soldier in the field. Any other ideas? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-12-2010, 09:07 PM	#6
paid4c4 User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 62 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Ron, I hate to ask but is the punch for sale? Bill

08-12-2010, 09:58 PM	#7
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Don't know if they're authentic, but Simpsons has them, under luger accessories: https://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php...fdfdbebfdb1f95 FN

08-25-2010, 04:00 PM	#9
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,991 Times in 1,205 Posts	I think anyone with a lathe and some spare time could make you one

08-25-2010, 08:11 PM	#11
paid4c4 User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 62 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	The one from Simpson's should be here tomorrow! I'll post pictures of the take down tool and the punch in the holster pocket. Bill

08-25-2010, 09:47 PM	#13
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	It also pushes out the pin for the extractor. Amazing the dirt in there sometimes. FN

08-26-2010, 11:13 AM	#15
Mauser720 User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 535 Thanks: 18 Thanked 49 Times in 33 Posts	Alf - Here are the dimensions of a "reputable" reproduction: Total length of the pin punch (tip to tip) = 57.05 mm Diameter of the handle = 4.72 mm Diameter of the punch = 1.55 mm Length of the punch = 16.06 mm (slight bevel where the punch enters the handle) Effective length of the punch = 15.02 mm (not including the bevel near the handle) __________________ Mauser720 - Ron "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it." Last edited by Mauser720; 08-26-2010 at 07:25 PM.

08-26-2010, 11:30 AM	#16
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Ron & Norm, In addition to the extractor pin, it's the only punch in my inventory small enough to remove the pin from the LPO8 rear sight and the toggle lock on a M1900 rear link. TH PS: You can turn it down a bit more for removing the pin holding the disconnector plunger into the trigger bar. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-26-2010, 11:31 AM	#17
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Many Thanks Ron Alf __________________ I prefer a Luger