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paid4c4 08-12-2010 06:05 PM

Picture of a Punch
 
Gentlemen, I recently purchased a 1915 holster for my 1915 DWM Luger. Inside the flap of the holster there is a leather pouch which has places for a take down tool and a punch. I have acquired a proper tool but haven't found a punch. I would like to see what a punch looks like, would anyone have a photo of a punch. I would just like to see what I'm missing.
Thank You;
Bill

fred p 08-12-2010 06:54 PM

might be for a cleaning rod? I can't think of any reason for a punch. would like to see a pic of the holster. I am sure someone more knowledgeable than me can help more.

Ron Smith 08-12-2010 06:58 PM

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Bill,

I found it. The coin is a dime for relative size.

Ron

Ron Smith 08-12-2010 07:25 PM

Fred,

I sold the holster to Bill. It was a very nice 1915,but somewhat unusual in that the tool pouch was extra wide with an integral stitched in 'take down punch' pouch.

It's nothing like the later Weimar era police and military holsters converted to hold a cleaning rod.

Ron

fred p 08-12-2010 08:17 PM

thanks Ron. I have much to learn.:) If I only had the capacity to retain the good info I find here I would be a happy camper. CRS sucks.:roflmao:

paid4c4 08-12-2010 09:07 PM

Ron, I hate to ask but is the punch for sale?
Bill

FNorm 08-12-2010 09:58 PM

Don't know if they're authentic, but Simpsons has them, under luger accessories:

https://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php...fdfdbebfdb1f95

FN

ratdog 08-25-2010 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNorm (Post 181734)
Don't know if they're authentic, but Simpsons has them, under luger accessories:

https://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php...fdfdbebfdb1f95

FN

Simpsons selling them for 10$, my guess is no on original...........

Vlim 08-25-2010 04:00 PM

I think anyone with a lathe and some spare time could make you one :)

sheepherder 08-25-2010 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 182283)
I think anyone with a lathe and some spare time could make you one :)

Out of brass??? For $10??? Buy the one at Simpson's... :rolleyes:

paid4c4 08-25-2010 08:11 PM

The one from Simpson's should be here tomorrow!
I'll post pictures of the take down tool and the punch in the holster pocket.
Bill

Ron Wood 08-25-2010 09:43 PM

You can chuck up a nail in a redneck lathe (an electric drill clamped in a vise) and turn one out with a file. Takes some time and you need to fire up your Bernzomatic torch to heat treat it. But for free and a little care you would be hard pressed to tell it from an original. You can buy one from Simpsons but a did-it-my-ownself is kinda satisfying.

By the way, the only two uses for a pin punch that I can tell is to push out the pin that holds in the magazine bottom, and to drift out the pin that secures the thumb safety (which isn't too likely). Can't think of any other operations that would be done by a soldier in the field. Any other ideas?

FNorm 08-25-2010 09:47 PM

It also pushes out the pin for the extractor. Amazing the dirt in there sometimes.

FN

A.Mifsin 08-26-2010 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 182283)
I think anyone with a lathe and some spare time could make you one :)

Any dimensions to make it look like an original please?
Alf.

Mauser720 08-26-2010 11:13 AM

Alf -

Here are the dimensions of a "reputable" reproduction:

Total length of the pin punch (tip to tip) = 57.05 mm
Diameter of the handle = 4.72 mm
Diameter of the punch = 1.55 mm
Length of the punch = 16.06 mm (slight bevel where the punch enters the handle)
Effective length of the punch = 15.02 mm (not including the bevel near the handle)

Lugerdoc 08-26-2010 11:30 AM

Ron & Norm, In addition to the extractor pin, it's the only punch in my inventory small enough to remove the pin from the LPO8 rear sight and the toggle lock on a M1900 rear link. TH PS: You can turn it down a bit more for removing the pin holding the disconnector plunger into the trigger bar.

A.Mifsin 08-26-2010 11:31 AM

Many Thanks Ron :cheers:
Alf

whcoyote 10-15-2010 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 182287)
You can chuck up a nail in a redneck lathe (an electric drill clamped in a vise) and turn one out with a file. Takes some time and you need to fire up your Bernzomatic torch to heat treat it. But for free and a little care you would be hard pressed to tell it from an original. You can buy one from Simpsons but a did-it-my-ownself is kinda satisfying.

By the way, the only two uses for a pin punch that I can tell is to push out the pin that holds in the magazine bottom, and to drift out the pin that secures the thumb safety (which isn't too likely). Can't think of any other operations that would be done by a soldier in the field. Any other ideas?

Ron:
My experience is that a nail does not have enough Carbon content to harden very well. I think something like a piece of drill rod would work better - file it to shape and then heat it cherry red and quench it in water (Do not use a drill, use drill rod. This is the stuff they make drills out of but it hasn't been hardened yet) Then polish it bright with wet/dry emery cloth (400 grit). Apply heat to the head (hammer end) and watch very carefully as the color runs down the punch to the tip. When the straw color gets to the tip, remove the heat IMMEDIATELY!! Polish it back bright and you have a nice tool.


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