Sighting in my Artillery <img BORDER="0" src='http://boards.rennlist.com/luger/pic.gif'>

Dan Clemons · 12-26-2001, 12:53 AM

Could it be the flip of my wrist at recoil causing my otherwise accurate Artillery to group to the left? Or, could it have anything to do with the way I'm sighting the gun? This was my first attempt at sighting in the gun. In any case, I am happy with its accuracy at 15 yards. Next time I will move the target down-range to see if it shoots any better for me. I sure love the Artillery!

Happy New Year!

Dan Clemons

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Artillery1.jpg

Steve Lempitski · 12-26-2001, 01:26 PM

Next time zoom in on the target so we don't see the hit in the 5 ring on the lower left. HEHEHE!

Kyrie · 12-26-2001, 06:50 PM

Hi Dan,

Could be the sights, or the shooter pressing on the left of the trigger - either will cause shift of the group to 9 oÃ¢??clock. Try shooting with just the pad of your trigger finger on the trigger - and that pressing straight back.

Best regards,

Kyrie

Dan Clemons · 12-26-2001, 07:32 PM

Thanks Kyrie. What a great idea! I think will give that a try. There is no reason that gun should not put bullets in the center of the target. I have been told that the bore can be off a degree or two but doubt that is the case. You are right, I have to be pulling that trigger slightly to the left.

I sincerely appreciate you responding to my posting.

Happy New Year to you,

Dan Clemons

12-26-2001, 08:44 PM

Heck Steve, looks like a normal target to me?

Ed

Thor · 12-26-2001, 08:48 PM

If consitently off, just drift the front sight to the left, simple solution! You never know now who had already adjusted it since the factory, I would also look at the witness mark on the sight to see if it was moved off the factory setting! ~Thor~

Dan Clemons · 12-27-2001, 12:18 AM

Hi Thor:

Another GREAT idea! Just drifting the sight to the left should give me the inch or two that I need downrange.

I pulled the gun out and looked at the front sight. There are no markings at or around the front sight. It appears to be dead even on both sides. I have four strange looking marks on the right side of the receiver. I have no clue as to what they mean. It appears to be perfectly alligned between left and right.

As usual, you have a great idea. I REALLY appreciate your help!

I will try your idea out on Friday.

Happy New Year to you,

Dan Clemons

Thor · 12-27-2001, 12:36 AM

I check and adjust if necessary all my reworked Lugers as part of the refinish process! Thor

Dan Clemons · 12-27-2001, 02:03 AM

I'm sending you a letter and check tomorrow regarding the possibility of a re-work. You have been so helpful to me; I could not help but share some great thinking outside the box with you. Please call me Toll Free when you get my letter.

Thanks,

Dan Clemons

Thor · 12-27-2001, 03:23 AM

When Luger Pistols were zeroed at the factory, a small mark (a line) parallel to the bore was placed (stamped) across the top of the front sight base and across the top of the barrel thickened edge to indicate the zero locations of both parts when the gun was zeroed. See the attached picture and look at the top of the left side (as facing from the back of the gun looking toward the muzzle) and you will see a deep witness mark! Barrels and receivers also shared a similar mark underneath the reciever when they were matched up! The line up looked better on the original picture! ~Thor~

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/SightWitness.jpg

Dan Clemons · 12-27-2001, 05:04 PM

Ah, yes. I do see it now. How interesting? Mine lines up perfectly. Thank you for pointing that out. I learned something new today. I also see the witness mark at the bottom of the barrel as well.

I now see how that front sight is adjusted as well. Does it take a special tool or tap to adjust it?

Thanks so much,

Dan Clemons

12-26-2001, 12:53 AM	#1
Dan Clemons User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sighting in my Artillery Could it be the flip of my wrist at recoil causing my otherwise accurate Artillery to group to the left? Or, could it have anything to do with the way I'm sighting the gun? This was my first attempt at sighting in the gun. In any case, I am happy with its accuracy at 15 yards. Next time I will move the target down-range to see if it shoots any better for me. I sure love the Artillery! Happy New Year! Dan Clemons http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/Artillery1.jpg

12-26-2001, 01:26 PM	#2
Steve Lempitski User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Old Cape Cod Posts: 238 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Sighting in my Artillery Next time zoom in on the target so we don't see the hit in the 5 ring on the lower left. HEHEHE!

12-26-2001, 06:50 PM	#3
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Re: Sighting in my Artillery Hi Dan, Could be the sights, or the shooter pressing on the left of the trigger - either will cause shift of the group to 9 oÃ¢??clock. Try shooting with just the pad of your trigger finger on the trigger - and that pressing straight back. Best regards, Kyrie

12-26-2001, 07:32 PM	#4
Dan Clemons User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sighting in my Artillery Thanks Kyrie. What a great idea! I think will give that a try. There is no reason that gun should not put bullets in the center of the target. I have been told that the bore can be off a degree or two but doubt that is the case. You are right, I have to be pulling that trigger slightly to the left. I sincerely appreciate you responding to my posting. Happy New Year to you, Dan Clemons

12-26-2001, 08:44 PM	#5
66mustang Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Sighting in my Artillery Heck Steve, looks like a normal target to me? Ed

12-26-2001, 08:48 PM	#6
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Sighting in my Artillery If consitently off, just drift the front sight to the left, simple solution! You never know now who had already adjusted it since the factory, I would also look at the witness mark on the sight to see if it was moved off the factory setting! ~Thor~

12-27-2001, 12:18 AM	#7
Dan Clemons User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sighting in my Artillery Hi Thor: Another GREAT idea! Just drifting the sight to the left should give me the inch or two that I need downrange. I pulled the gun out and looked at the front sight. There are no markings at or around the front sight. It appears to be dead even on both sides. I have four strange looking marks on the right side of the receiver. I have no clue as to what they mean. It appears to be perfectly alligned between left and right. As usual, you have a great idea. I REALLY appreciate your help! I will try your idea out on Friday. Happy New Year to you, Dan Clemons

12-27-2001, 12:36 AM	#8
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Sighting in my Artillery I check and adjust if necessary all my reworked Lugers as part of the refinish process! Thor

12-27-2001, 02:03 AM	#9
Dan Clemons User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sighting in my Artillery I'm sending you a letter and check tomorrow regarding the possibility of a re-work. You have been so helpful to me; I could not help but share some great thinking outside the box with you. Please call me Toll Free when you get my letter. Thanks, Dan Clemons

12-27-2001, 03:23 AM	#10
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Sight Witness Mark When Luger Pistols were zeroed at the factory, a small mark (a line) parallel to the bore was placed (stamped) across the top of the front sight base and across the top of the barrel thickened edge to indicate the zero locations of both parts when the gun was zeroed. See the attached picture and look at the top of the left side (as facing from the back of the gun looking toward the muzzle) and you will see a deep witness mark! Barrels and receivers also shared a similar mark underneath the reciever when they were matched up! The line up looked better on the original picture! ~Thor~ http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/SightWitness.jpg

12-27-2001, 05:04 PM	#11
Dan Clemons User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sight Witness Mark Ah, yes. I do see it now. How interesting? Mine lines up perfectly. Thank you for pointing that out. I learned something new today. I also see the witness mark at the bottom of the barrel as well. I now see how that front sight is adjusted as well. Does it take a special tool or tap to adjust it? Thanks so much, Dan Clemons