Magazine 9mm or 30 cal?

Pumaonly · 10-17-2009, 07:28 PM

Is there a visual way to tell a 9mm magazine from a 30 cal magazine?

policeluger · 10-17-2009, 08:26 PM

one in the same.....no differance between a 30 and a 9mm mag

lugerholsterrepair · 10-17-2009, 10:23 PM

Puma, Since the rear of the cartridges are the same there is no size differences to deal with.

A .30 Luger cartridge is just a necked down 9MM.

Both cartridges work the same in all Luger magazines.

Jerry Burney

Vlim · 10-18-2009, 06:12 AM

Which is partially true, as there were differences in 9mm and .30 cal magazines at several times. The difference was the spring strength.

This appears to have gone away, quite soon, only to be revived by Mauser in the 1970s.

Frehol · 10-18-2009, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

A .30 Luger cartridge is just a necked down 9MM.

Jerry Burney

Well, to be correct should it not be the other way around(?):
-the 9mm is a "necked up" 7.65mm, as the 7.65mm was the
first parabellum cartirdge

/Freddy

lugerholsterrepair · 10-18-2009, 05:11 PM

Freddy..how wounld that be any more "correct" ? .30 Luger IS a necked down 9MM isn't it?

What you are talking about is the DEVELOPMENT of the 9MM from the .30 Luger cartridge. The progressive development by Georg Luger of opening up the .30 Luger case to make the 9MM is vaguely familiar to us mountain folk.

Should it be the other way round? Gosh..now you got me wonderin...By the way, welcome to the Forum. Good to see a newbie with answers instead of questions!

Jerry Burney

Dick Herman · 10-19-2009, 09:25 PM

While the Luger magazines will handle both the 9mm and the 7.65mm, there were cosmetic differences in some of the early commercial versions. Very early commercial magazines were marked 9mm on the wood knob. In the 1920s some of the commercial magazines were marked 7.65mm.

squint · 10-22-2009, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frehol

Well, to be correct should it not be the other way around(?):
-the 9mm is a "necked up" 7.65mm, as the 7.65mm was the
first parabellum cartirdge

/Freddy

Yep, I agree. We "newbies" need to stick together!

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,104 Times in 1,429 Posts	Puma, Since the rear of the cartridges are the same there is no size differences to deal with. A .30 Luger cartridge is just a necked down 9MM. Both cartridges work the same in all Luger magazines. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-18-2009, 05:11 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,104 Times in 1,429 Posts	Freddy..how wounld that be any more "correct" ? .30 Luger IS a necked down 9MM isn't it? What you are talking about is the DEVELOPMENT of the 9MM from the .30 Luger cartridge. The progressive development by Georg Luger of opening up the .30 Luger case to make the 9MM is vaguely familiar to us mountain folk. Should it be the other way round? Gosh..now you got me wonderin...By the way, welcome to the Forum. Good to see a newbie with answers instead of questions! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-19-2009, 09:25 PM	#7
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	Early Magazines While the Luger magazines will handle both the 9mm and the 7.65mm, there were cosmetic differences in some of the early commercial versions. Very early commercial magazines were marked 9mm on the wood knob. In the 1920s some of the commercial magazines were marked 7.65mm.

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policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	one in the same.....no differance between a 30 and a 9mm mag

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Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,045 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,932 Times in 1,194 Posts	Which is partially true, as there were differences in 9mm and .30 cal magazines at several times. The difference was the spring strength. This appears to have gone away, quite soon, only to be revived by Mauser in the 1970s.