Restoring?

cma22inc · 11-17-2008, 02:54 PM

So is Ken still accepting new work or did I read that wrong?

What are the groups toughts on restoring an import marked DWM Finnish contract I plan to keep as a shooter?

Edward Tinker · 11-17-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by cma22inc
So is Ken still accepting new work or did I read that wrong?

What are the groups toughts on restoring an import marked DWM Finnish contract I plan to keep as a shooter?

Whats the purpose of restoring it (that isn't meant sarcastically).

If the entire purpose is to make it look like it did from the factory and you like the clean looks like that, then do so.

If it is to get rid of the import marking, then have it done.

Otherwise, i feel SA guns were used over a long period of time and would leave them be.

Ed

policeluger · 11-17-2008, 03:38 PM

It is against Fed. law to remove import marks......we've been through this before here.

cma22inc · 11-17-2008, 03:52 PM

Sorry did not mean an implications on the import marks. I know they are there forever. Just mentioned them as they tend to lower the value somewhat which in this case keeps the pistol in the realm of shooter it is after all mismatched and I'm sure the Fins redid her at least once already.

I'm of like mind as others here and would never think of restoring one more collectible.

The one I have has alot of wear on the finish and I plan to shoot it quite a lot. I wanted to dress the ole girl and protect the metal.

Just wanted to see where you guys stood on the Finnish contract models.

Thanks

John Sabato · 11-17-2008, 04:47 PM

It is a parts gun... so I would say go for it if you want her to look pretty... it wouldn't be putting lipstick on a pig... This gun will always be a lady.

Edward Tinker · 11-17-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by policeluger
It is against Fed. law to remove import marks......we've been through this before here.

Not to disagree, but that is not what I have been told. It is the law to have each one put on, there is nothing that says a import marking has to stay. Proposed rules state:

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Currently, there are no minimum standards concerning size and depth of impression for markings on firearms. The regulations require that the identifying information, including the serial number, be legible, conspicuous, and placed on the firearm Ã¢??Ã¢??in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed.Ã¢??Ã¢??

There is not a ruling or law that I can find at the BATF that states it can not be removed, only that the first importer MUST mark them.

cma22inc · 11-17-2008, 06:08 PM

I should have left my question (still unanswered) about if Ken was still accepting new restoration work and not to bring up another gun unrelated to the original posts.

Edward Tinker · 11-17-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by cma22inc
I should have left my question (still unanswered) about if Ken was still accepting new restoration work and not to bring up another gun unrelated to the original posts.

I don't know Ken, perhaps someone has his contact info and you can ask?

Ed

Tomathvl · 11-17-2008, 10:34 PM

Ken's number is in the post; give him a call.

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Here's a shooter I had built up. Grips and barrel by Hugh Clark, Rust blue, fire blue and straw by Ken Karsted. If anyone is interested in getting work done by Ken his number is 847-234-0441, he lives in Lake Forest, IL. He's been doing restorations for 40 years.

Navy · 11-19-2008, 05:19 PM

Tom,

What is the quality of his work? Is he a "Thor" or a Gale Morgan?

Tom A

Tomathvl · 11-21-2008, 09:31 AM

Tom
Sent a PM
Tom

cma22inc · 11-21-2008, 05:51 PM

Can you PM me the same I'm curious too.

Might have a shooter of mine reworked.

Tomathvl · 11-21-2008, 08:37 PM

He did an excellent job on my shooter. Have you looked at the photos? My shooter was in good condition physically and had some type of after market finish like Teflon or ???? . He stripped the old finish, and did some touch up. The new barrel finish didn’t match the gun so he touched up the barrel and refinished the entire gun. I don’t know how or if he will work on really dinged up guns, you’d have to ask. I think he likes fast turn around refinish work but you’d have to ask. His prices were extremely cheap for what he did; cheaper than Thor’s.

Ken is used by many dealers to Refurb their wares. He goes to all the big shows in this area OGCA, Louisville, SOS, etc and makes the rounds of the dealers. I’ve seen his work on many dealer tables.

Hope this helps.

Tom

11-17-2008, 04:47 PM	#5
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11-17-2008, 02:54 PM	#1
cma22inc User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa Bay FL Posts: 93 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	So is Ken still accepting new work or did I read that wrong? What are the groups toughts on restoring an import marked DWM Finnish contract I plan to keep as a shooter?

11-17-2008, 03:38 PM	#3
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	It is against Fed. law to remove import marks......we've been through this before here.

11-17-2008, 03:52 PM	#4
cma22inc User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa Bay FL Posts: 93 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Sorry did not mean an implications on the import marks. I know they are there forever. Just mentioned them as they tend to lower the value somewhat which in this case keeps the pistol in the realm of shooter it is after all mismatched and I'm sure the Fins redid her at least once already. I'm of like mind as others here and would never think of restoring one more collectible. The one I have has alot of wear on the finish and I plan to shoot it quite a lot. I wanted to dress the ole girl and protect the metal. Just wanted to see where you guys stood on the Finnish contract models. Thanks

11-17-2008, 06:08 PM	#7
cma22inc User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa Bay FL Posts: 93 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	I should have left my question (still unanswered) about if Ken was still accepting new restoration work and not to bring up another gun unrelated to the original posts.

11-19-2008, 05:19 PM	#10
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Tom, What is the quality of his work? Is he a "Thor" or a Gale Morgan? Tom A

11-21-2008, 09:31 AM	#11
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	Tom Sent a PM Tom

11-21-2008, 05:51 PM	#12
cma22inc User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa Bay FL Posts: 93 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Can you PM me the same I'm curious too. Might have a shooter of mine reworked.

11-21-2008, 08:37 PM	#13
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	He did an excellent job on my shooter. Have you looked at the photos? My shooter was in good condition physically and had some type of after market finish like Teflon or ???? . He stripped the old finish, and did some touch up. The new barrel finish didn’t match the gun so he touched up the barrel and refinished the entire gun. I don’t know how or if he will work on really dinged up guns, you’d have to ask. I think he likes fast turn around refinish work but you’d have to ask. His prices were extremely cheap for what he did; cheaper than Thor’s. Ken is used by many dealers to Refurb their wares. He goes to all the big shows in this area OGCA, Louisville, SOS, etc and makes the rounds of the dealers. I’ve seen his work on many dealer tables. Hope this helps. Tom