E/154 S/42 + mag

dalep38 · 03-19-2008, 05:15 PM

Gentlemen: I have an E/154 S/42+ unserialed nickel body mag . I am a little curious about it's place eg. K date , G date or just 1936 s/42. I can't find a symbol designation for this in any books but it is clearly mentioned in Still's Third reich Lugers on the mag page(125) as being a type 1 proper acceptance mark taht are correct for up to the m block of '36 lugers.I guess that would make it good for any S/42 up thru then . Why are there no symbols of this eagle acceptance in books .We all know about the other 154 mark that is the same as the B 90 etc. This eagle has 3 droop feathers on ea. side of a single centered leg . Is this possibly a replacement only variation Mag? Any help would be greatly appreciated .Isn't it wierd how Collectors can find interest in such minute details (Guillty as Charged)
Thank You, Dale

MFC · 03-19-2008, 10:21 PM

Dale,
It's my understanding that the B 90 acceptance carried over from K dates into early G dates, up to about S# 7000a. Next the E/154 was introduced then E/211 and then DWE/63 towards the end of G date production. I'm in no way trying to dispute Still's TRL. This info came to me from a long time luger collector and Aaron Davis' Standard Catalog of Lugers, which is said to have quite a few mistakes.
My guess is your mag stamped S/42 and no serial would be a replacement mag. The + indicates "extra mag", but those didn't have the S/42 and they were serialized to the gun.
Mike C.

dalep38 · 03-20-2008, 03:34 PM

Mike C. : Thank you for the reply .I am aware that mauser went to the 154 accceptance mark in the G dates but all I can find is the I beam type mark for 154 ,not the E/154 as I have and Still's TRL references . I am most curious as to why the E/154 is not shown in any books and why just S/42 and + unserialed on the mag bottom that has this E/154 . I would tend to believe this E/154 may be an acceptance similar to the ac that Walther used on replacement unserialed mags for P.38's or armorers replacement mags as most P.38 collectors call them . Does anyone have the E/154 mark on any Mauser Lugers in the G date range or on serialed mags in this range. This Eagle has ,as mentioned before only 3 droop feathers on ea. side of a single center leg for the eagle mark which is different from all the other droop eagle acceptance marks . Thank You , Dale
P.S. can post picture if interest warrants it

MFC · 03-21-2008, 08:00 PM

This proof corresponds with the W 154 "I beam" proof. Replacement parts were stamped S/42; barrel, grips, with no serial #s. Again I would guess your mag is a replacement also.

Mike C.

Lugerdoc · 03-23-2008, 01:17 PM

Nicely marked mag and with the proper narrow aspect die set. Original! TH

03-19-2008, 05:15 PM	#1
dalep38 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 60 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	E/154 S/42 + mag Gentlemen: I have an E/154 S/42+ unserialed nickel body mag . I am a little curious about it's place eg. K date , G date or just 1936 s/42. I can't find a symbol designation for this in any books but it is clearly mentioned in Still's Third reich Lugers on the mag page(125) as being a type 1 proper acceptance mark taht are correct for up to the m block of '36 lugers.I guess that would make it good for any S/42 up thru then . Why are there no symbols of this eagle acceptance in books .We all know about the other 154 mark that is the same as the B 90 etc. This eagle has 3 droop feathers on ea. side of a single centered leg . Is this possibly a replacement only variation Mag? Any help would be greatly appreciated .Isn't it wierd how Collectors can find interest in such minute details (Guillty as Charged) Thank You, Dale __________________ Always looking for early P.38's Original finish collector grade ,Zeros,480,ac only,40 added,ac40,ac41's and mags

03-19-2008, 10:21 PM	#2
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Dale, It's my understanding that the B 90 acceptance carried over from K dates into early G dates, up to about S# 7000a. Next the E/154 was introduced then E/211 and then DWE/63 towards the end of G date production. I'm in no way trying to dispute Still's TRL. This info came to me from a long time luger collector and Aaron Davis' Standard Catalog of Lugers, which is said to have quite a few mistakes. My guess is your mag stamped S/42 and no serial would be a replacement mag. The + indicates "extra mag", but those didn't have the S/42 and they were serialized to the gun. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

03-20-2008, 03:34 PM	#3
dalep38 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 60 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	E/154 mag Mike C. : Thank you for the reply .I am aware that mauser went to the 154 accceptance mark in the G dates but all I can find is the I beam type mark for 154 ,not the E/154 as I have and Still's TRL references . I am most curious as to why the E/154 is not shown in any books and why just S/42 and + unserialed on the mag bottom that has this E/154 . I would tend to believe this E/154 may be an acceptance similar to the ac that Walther used on replacement unserialed mags for P.38's or armorers replacement mags as most P.38 collectors call them . Does anyone have the E/154 mark on any Mauser Lugers in the G date range or on serialed mags in this range. This Eagle has ,as mentioned before only 3 droop feathers on ea. side of a single center leg for the eagle mark which is different from all the other droop eagle acceptance marks . Thank You , Dale P.S. can post picture if interest warrants it __________________ Always looking for early P.38's Original finish collector grade ,Zeros,480,ac only,40 added,ac40,ac41's and mags

03-21-2008, 08:00 PM	#4
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	This proof corresponds with the W 154 "I beam" proof. Replacement parts were stamped S/42; barrel, grips, with no serial #s. Again I would guess your mag is a replacement also. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

03-23-2008, 01:17 PM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Nicely marked mag and with the proper narrow aspect die set. Original! TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net