Please help with 1936 holster

vachefolle · 01-26-2008, 01:53 AM

I bought a 1936 Luger holster as a birthday gift for my boyfriend. I would like it if you guys can look at some pics and help me determine its authenticity. To me, it looks and feels authentic. It's in good condition but it has some obvious wear and some leather stretching. It also smells OLD. On the back, there is a faded manufacturer's stamp that says A Wunderlich Nache Berlin 1936.
I want to know:
1. Is it authentic?
2. Is it possible to tell what it was used for? Military/commercial
3. Can it be linked with a particular type of luger?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23186267@N03/

I'm absolutely knew to this. Pardon me if I sound ignorant. I paid $140. Was I ripped off?
Thanks!!!

vachefolle · 01-26-2008, 02:01 AM

I bought a 1936 Luger holster as a birthday gift for my boyfriend. I would like it if you guys can look at some pics and help me determine its authenticity. To me, it looks and feels authentic. It's in good condition but it has some obvious wear and some leather stretching. It also smells OLD. On the back, there is a faded manufacturer's stamp that says A Wunderlich Nache Berlin 1936.
I want to know:
1. Is it authentic?
2. Is it possible to tell what it was used for? Military/commercial
3. Can it be linked with a particular gun?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23186267@N03/

I'm absolutely knew to this. Pardon me if I sound ignorant. I paid $140. Was I ripped off?
Thanks!!!

LU1900 · 01-26-2008, 11:12 AM

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SteveM · 01-26-2008, 11:26 AM

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this holster is a very bad copy. The belt loops are incorrectly placed and stitched, the stitching overall is not that good. I would definitely try to get a refund on this.

SteveM

lugerholsterrepair · 01-26-2008, 11:40 AM

Barb, Steve is right. A very poorly done reproduction currently available for $29.95.
It is admirable for you to attempt this very difficult purchase for your boyfriend. Sort of like sending a sheep to the butchershop for a few cutlets.
Hang around on the Forum if you have time and send photo's of any future purchase considerations and the fellows here will help you out!
Jerry Burney

Edward Tinker · 01-26-2008, 12:01 PM

I merged these threads, its all the same forum.

On ebay you see 1940 marked holsters all the time...

Ed

Ron Wood · 01-26-2008, 12:08 PM

Barb,

You have been given the correct information about the military use of this style of holster and the appropriate model of Luger it would carry. The advice is also correct about it being a reproduction. Together with the answers you received on the Gunboards forum, the combined experience of the individuals that replied is well over 100 years, and probably closer to 200 years, of collecting.

It is unfortunate that you purchased a reproduction as an original. But since you bought it from an antique dealer, chances are good that they were also unaware that it is a repro. You would not expect to have an antique Victorian writing desk purchased from a sporting goods store to be absolutely authentic. If the dealers are as reputable as you think, they will refund your money. Since undoubtedly they sold the holster to you at a profit, they do not stand to lose as much through their error and learn from the experience themselves.

Good luck,
Ron

var99 · 01-26-2008, 12:08 PM

Check out some of the photos of original ones in the holster section of this forum, you will see the differences in genuine hosters that the guys have brought up, as well as tips of what to look for in the real ones.

Vince

vachefolle · 01-26-2008, 03:35 PM

Thanks. Going to return it right now. I'm printing out the forum pages. I honestly think the ppl at the store didn't know. But you know. They have to take it back or I will form a scene so yeah.

vachefolle · 01-27-2008, 02:48 AM

They took it back. They didn't know so I guess now they're forced to investigate.

01-26-2008, 01:53 AM	#1
vachefolle New User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Please help with 1936 holster I bought a 1936 Luger holster as a birthday gift for my boyfriend. I would like it if you guys can look at some pics and help me determine its authenticity. To me, it looks and feels authentic. It's in good condition but it has some obvious wear and some leather stretching. It also smells OLD. On the back, there is a faded manufacturer's stamp that says A Wunderlich Nache Berlin 1936. I want to know: 1. Is it authentic? 2. Is it possible to tell what it was used for? Military/commercial 3. Can it be linked with a particular type of luger? http://www.flickr.com/photos/23186267@N03/ I'm absolutely knew to this. Pardon me if I sound ignorant. I paid $140. Was I ripped off? Thanks!!!

01-26-2008, 02:01 AM	#2
vachefolle New User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1936 luger holster I bought a 1936 Luger holster as a birthday gift for my boyfriend. I would like it if you guys can look at some pics and help me determine its authenticity. To me, it looks and feels authentic. It's in good condition but it has some obvious wear and some leather stretching. It also smells OLD. On the back, there is a faded manufacturer's stamp that says A Wunderlich Nache Berlin 1936. I want to know: 1. Is it authentic? 2. Is it possible to tell what it was used for? Military/commercial 3. Can it be linked with a particular gun? http://www.flickr.com/photos/23186267@N03/ I'm absolutely knew to this. Pardon me if I sound ignorant. I paid $140. Was I ripped off? Thanks!!!

01-26-2008, 11:12 AM	#3
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01-26-2008, 11:40 AM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Barb, Steve is right. A very poorly done reproduction currently available for $29.95. It is admirable for you to attempt this very difficult purchase for your boyfriend. Sort of like sending a sheep to the butchershop for a few cutlets. Hang around on the Forum if you have time and send photo's of any future purchase considerations and the fellows here will help you out! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-26-2008, 12:01 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	I merged these threads, its all the same forum. On ebay you see 1940 marked holsters all the time... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-26-2008, 11:26 AM	#4
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this holster is a very bad copy. The belt loops are incorrectly placed and stitched, the stitching overall is not that good. I would definitely try to get a refund on this. SteveM

01-26-2008, 12:08 PM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Barb, You have been given the correct information about the military use of this style of holster and the appropriate model of Luger it would carry. The advice is also correct about it being a reproduction. Together with the answers you received on the Gunboards forum, the combined experience of the individuals that replied is well over 100 years, and probably closer to 200 years, of collecting. It is unfortunate that you purchased a reproduction as an original. But since you bought it from an antique dealer, chances are good that they were also unaware that it is a repro. You would not expect to have an antique Victorian writing desk purchased from a sporting goods store to be absolutely authentic. If the dealers are as reputable as you think, they will refund your money. Since undoubtedly they sold the holster to you at a profit, they do not stand to lose as much through their error and learn from the experience themselves. Good luck, Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-26-2008, 12:08 PM	#8
var99 User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: FL Posts: 114 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Check out some of the photos of original ones in the holster section of this forum, you will see the differences in genuine hosters that the guys have brought up, as well as tips of what to look for in the real ones. Vince

01-26-2008, 03:35 PM	#9
vachefolle New User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks. Going to return it right now. I'm printing out the forum pages. I honestly think the ppl at the store didn't know. But you know. They have to take it back or I will form a scene so yeah.

01-27-2008, 02:48 AM	#10
vachefolle New User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	They took it back. They didn't know so I guess now they're forced to investigate.