Brass barrel cup in holster???

RBorecky · 08-03-2007, 10:41 PM

My dad picked up a holster that clearly looks to be a Luger. I will get some pictures later but for now here is what I noticed. Down inside where the barrel sets is a brass cup. The gun pull up strap was sewn to the inside of flap so as you opened it up it pulled the gun up. No magazine pouch nor are there stich holes for one. No markings that I noticed. Anyone see one of these before??? Thanks,Rick B

Pete Ebbink · 08-05-2007, 11:13 AM

Brass cup ??? Maybe a fellow added it so gun oil would not run down the barrel and stain/soil the bottom of the holster's toe leather...as this guy knew in 60 years he could sell it for $ 610...???

RBorecky · 08-08-2007, 02:25 PM

Here are a few pictures of the holster. My father brought it by and it was so hot the lens fogged up. Dummy me should have waited and taken some more after it adjusted to the temp. It was in a air condition room before I took it down stairs. Any clue as to origin?? Rick B

Ron Wood · 08-08-2007, 04:12 PM

I thnk it might be a flare pistol holster.

lugerholsterrepair · 08-08-2007, 10:13 PM

Herr Wood is barking up the right tree...The holster nose is way too wide for the slim barreled Luger Pistol. The front looks to be cut away. The lift strap is to lift the pistol up enough to get hold of it..Looks like someone made it unnecessary.
Hard to tell really what this might have been for exactly...Usually German Flare gun holsters had a cleaning rod apparatus on the outside with a cup for the rod. Jerry Burney

Lugerdoc · 08-09-2007, 09:51 AM

Rick, The holster shown is the Norwegian issue holster for their M1914 copy of the Colt 1911. These were still in use in WW2, but are usually unmarked. TH

RBorecky · 08-09-2007, 11:06 AM

I never heard of that. Are they rare of common?? Thanks,,Rick B

Pete Ebbink · 08-09-2007, 11:56 AM

To back up Tom's contribution, above...page 150 from Euguene Bender's smaller book on WWII military holsters :

lugerholsterrepair · 08-09-2007, 01:41 PM

That looks like it! Good Job! Jerry Burney

08-03-2007, 10:41 PM	#1
RBorecky User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Brass barrel cup in holster??? My dad picked up a holster that clearly looks to be a Luger. I will get some pictures later but for now here is what I noticed. Down inside where the barrel sets is a brass cup. The gun pull up strap was sewn to the inside of flap so as you opened it up it pulled the gun up. No magazine pouch nor are there stich holes for one. No markings that I noticed. Anyone see one of these before??? Thanks,Rick B

08-08-2007, 04:12 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	I thnk it might be a flare pistol holster. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-08-2007, 10:13 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Herr Wood is barking up the right tree...The holster nose is way too wide for the slim barreled Luger Pistol. The front looks to be cut away. The lift strap is to lift the pistol up enough to get hold of it..Looks like someone made it unnecessary. Hard to tell really what this might have been for exactly...Usually German Flare gun holsters had a cleaning rod apparatus on the outside with a cup for the rod. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-09-2007, 09:51 AM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Rick, The holster shown is the Norwegian issue holster for their M1914 copy of the Colt 1911. These were still in use in WW2, but are usually unmarked. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-09-2007, 01:41 PM	#9
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	That looks like it! Good Job! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-05-2007, 11:13 AM	#2
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Brass cup ??? Maybe a fellow added it so gun oil would not run down the barrel and stain/soil the bottom of the holster's toe leather...as this guy knew in 60 years he could sell it for $ 610...???

08-08-2007, 02:25 PM	#3
RBorecky User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here are a few pictures of the holster. My father brought it by and it was so hot the lens fogged up. Dummy me should have waited and taken some more after it adjusted to the temp. It was in a air condition room before I took it down stairs. Any clue as to origin?? Rick B

08-09-2007, 11:06 AM	#7
RBorecky User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I never heard of that. Are they rare of common?? Thanks,,Rick B

08-09-2007, 11:56 AM	#8
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	To back up Tom's contribution, above...page 150 from Euguene Bender's smaller book on WWII military holsters :