Reblued

Timofey · 04-18-2006, 02:34 PM

Hi All,

I had an earlier question about rebluing which Ed provided some guidance as to what to look for. It appears that my first Luger has been reblued. Here is a link to pictures of the old girl:

Luger Pictures

The grips I believe are Stoeger. Can anyone help with the ID?

The magazine is post war as it is marked with 2/1001. The AL mag bottom piece is stamped with the weapon's SN but the font does not match what is on the frame, so I assume this was done later.

I have one other question. As shown in the bolt image it appears that the bolt is defective. There is a small slot does not appeared machined. If the bolt is bad, who do I contact on list for repair?

Thanks for the help!

Regards,

Tim

Timofey · 04-18-2006, 02:35 PM

Hey All,

The link may be bad. Here is the "raw" link :

http://members.impulse.net/~gonzo/LUGER/

John Sabato · 04-18-2006, 02:48 PM

Tim,

Your old girl is a 1917 DWM manufactured gun that was re-issued by the East Germans after WW2... the Grips are EG replacements, the magazine is an EG replacement but uses and original magazine bottom.

IF you need replacement parts, contact Tom Heller... Your bolt has apparently been damaged... possibly by shooting ammo too hot for a Luger... the slot for retention of the firing pin and spring appears broken off...you will find postings by LUGERDOC in the FOR SALE forum... just post your wants and he will respond within a day or so...

Ron Wood · 04-18-2006, 02:50 PM

Tim,
Your Luger is an East German rework of a 1917 Erfurt. It has a replaced barrel and the toggle train from a DWM Luger. The grips are VOPO, or East German Volks Polizei. The bolt is defective and will not hold the firing pin spring retainer. Check with forum member Lugerdoc (Tom Heller), I am sure he can provide you with a suitable replacement.

Whoops, too slow...John aced me out!

John Sabato · 04-19-2006, 10:47 AM

Yeah Ron, but I didn't catch the proof marks... only the toggle. thanks for the correction. I am really only knowledgeable about the 'reproductions' I should have left this reply to you

Timofey · 04-19-2006, 11:26 AM

Thanks All!

Timofey · 04-19-2006, 11:38 AM

Another question - is there any factory ammo I should stay away from to prevent future damage?

I searched the forums and found the Winchester ammo I am using is ok.

04-18-2006, 02:34 PM	#1
Timofey User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Reblued Hi All, I had an earlier question about rebluing which Ed provided some guidance as to what to look for. It appears that my first Luger has been reblued. Here is a link to pictures of the old girl: Luger Pictures The grips I believe are Stoeger. Can anyone help with the ID? The magazine is post war as it is marked with 2/1001. The AL mag bottom piece is stamped with the weapon's SN but the font does not match what is on the frame, so I assume this was done later. I have one other question. As shown in the bolt image it appears that the bolt is defective. There is a small slot does not appeared machined. If the bolt is bad, who do I contact on list for repair? Thanks for the help! Regards, Tim

04-18-2006, 02:48 PM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Tim, Your old girl is a 1917 DWM manufactured gun that was re-issued by the East Germans after WW2... the Grips are EG replacements, the magazine is an EG replacement but uses and original magazine bottom. IF you need replacement parts, contact Tom Heller... Your bolt has apparently been damaged... possibly by shooting ammo too hot for a Luger... the slot for retention of the firing pin and spring appears broken off...you will find postings by LUGERDOC in the FOR SALE forum... just post your wants and he will respond within a day or so... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-18-2006, 02:50 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Tim, Your Luger is an East German rework of a 1917 Erfurt. It has a replaced barrel and the toggle train from a DWM Luger. The grips are VOPO, or East German Volks Polizei. The bolt is defective and will not hold the firing pin spring retainer. Check with forum member Lugerdoc (Tom Heller), I am sure he can provide you with a suitable replacement. Whoops, too slow...John aced me out! __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-19-2006, 10:47 AM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Yeah Ron, but I didn't catch the proof marks... only the toggle. thanks for the correction. I am really only knowledgeable about the 'reproductions' I should have left this reply to you __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-18-2006, 02:35 PM	#2
Timofey User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey All, The link may be bad. Here is the "raw" link : http://members.impulse.net/~gonzo/LUGER/

04-19-2006, 11:26 AM	#6
Timofey User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks All!

04-19-2006, 11:38 AM	#7
Timofey User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another question - is there any factory ammo I should stay away from to prevent future damage? I searched the forums and found the Winchester ammo I am using is ok.