Cabellas' Luger Offerings...

Pete Ebbink · 01-06-2005, 09:58 PM

Quite a few lugers on the Cabella web site :

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...rarchyId=11647

Cannot be sure from the 1-2 photos per each luger, but many look reworked...IMHO...

I do not think the '42 Banner "Mouser" luger should have strawed parts...???

Having said that...the 1916-dated M1914 Navy looks promising...

Regards,

Pete...

kidvett · 01-06-2005, 11:03 PM

Hello Pete,

Could be a Commercial Banner 42 dated. Those had strawed parts & late ones had plastic grips. Some were contract made for Sweden & Switzerland. SN suffix could tell a bit more

In any case, those are not frequently encountered........and this one looks nice !!

MARK

tracyp · 01-06-2005, 11:31 PM

Pete,

I agree with you, many look reworked. The straw looks too good on the 42 banner. I wonder what the serial number is?

Tracy

Karl · 01-07-2005, 07:01 PM

The arty ("DWM 07") that has already sold looks OK to me in photos but the rest look suspicious. Grip wear on some does not correspond with straw and blue. Notice the unusual front sights on the 1918 Erfurt and the other arty for sale. The Erfurt sight has a step like an M1900 and the arty sight is shaped like a pyramid. KFS

Big Norm · 01-12-2005, 02:59 AM

I have seen a few Lugers at Cabelas here in Michigan and they all seemed to have been redone and there weren't any bargains there. I mentioned to the sales people that I had a few Lugers that I might consider selling and they got real excited. I don't think that these boys see many of the real good Lugers. If they do, then the staff buys them. But I don't think that I would sell through Cabelas. I could make more money selling someplace else. Why pull in a needless middleman?
Big Norm

Pete Ebbink · 01-12-2005, 10:21 AM

Hi Norm,

I noticed these particular luger are being sold in a MN store at Cabellas...

Maybe folks in the midwest that cannot sell such pieces, themselves, are now having Cabellas do consignment sales...

Pete...

Frank H · 01-20-2005, 08:41 PM

My heart sank when I opened the package. The blueing of the barrel and frame didn't match, no halos around the numbers, and the proofs looked new. The 1916 looked too fresh and deep, the side plate was over polished-no sharp edges on the raised part. The firing pin was also strange. I had Keith take a look at it and he agreed that it was not a desirable gun. It a shame someone had to screw this up. The story goes; This came from a collection of 675 lugers in the midwest, Cabelas purchased 75 at this time. If it wouldn't have been for this forum and what I have learned hear, it didn't look that bad! I can't fault Cabelas, they helped out as much as they could, but admitted to knowing little about lugers. So with a 3 day inspection--they will have it back in the morning. Oh well--more money for the SOS and National Gun Day. See you there! Frank H.

Pete Ebbink · 01-20-2005, 09:04 PM

Hey Frank H.,

Glad to hear the Cabellas folks have the no-questions asked 3-day return policy...

Did you happen to notice the size of the rear toggle pin flange on this 1916 Navy ?

See you at the SOS...let's plan dinner ! Tom Beasley will be there as well...and the Navy Cabal guys as well...should have a nice LF dinner group...

Another Cabellas offering that looks very odd is the 1920's long barrel...I am not an expert...but would not expect a carbine to have three (3) sights as this one does...the front sight, the rear carbine sight, and the other rear sight on the rear toggle link...

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/co...carb_owa.jhtml

Maybe Waffenfabrik-USA is having trouble selling lugers and is now trying to use legit outfits to do consignment sales...???

Noticed the 1920 carbine the folks at Simspons LTD are selling only has two (2) sights...the rear toggle link is absent the v-notch sight...

http://www.simpsonltd.com/LugerRoom/.../OK-04%20E.jpg

Pete...

Frank H · 01-20-2005, 09:08 PM

It was thin and when put in place it came out the other side. I get in Thursday at 11:15 p.m. I'll see you there. Derek said bring good walking shoes and MONEY!

Pete Ebbink · 01-22-2005, 01:06 PM

It might help the folks at this MN-State Cabelas shop to hear from some of the members at the Luger Forum about the lugers they have offered on their web site. I am convinced the good folks at Cabelas would not knowingly sell such "not right" lugers at high retail prices if they knew better.

If they hear enough from us here on the Forum and get enough returned lugers during their inspection period, they may decide to no longer handle sales of such "not right" lugers in the future. Would hate to think that the colletion of 675 other lugers hits their store...if these first offerings are a typical example of guns to come...

Here is the Owattona Cabelas shop web site :

owagl@cabelas.com

Regards,

Pete...

Pete Ebbink · 01-27-2005, 12:18 AM

Well...enough cards & letters must have been sent in.

No more luger offerings at Cabelas...

The Virginian · 03-04-2005, 11:10 AM

Does anyone know if Cabela's will ship to a C&R?

Frank H · 03-04-2005, 11:33 AM

Yes, and no trouble with returns.

01-06-2005, 09:58 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Cabellas' Luger Offerings... Quite a few lugers on the Cabella web site : http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...rarchyId=11647 Cannot be sure from the 1-2 photos per each luger, but many look reworked...IMHO... I do not think the '42 Banner "Mouser" luger should have strawed parts...??? Having said that...the 1916-dated M1914 Navy looks promising... Regards, Pete...

01-20-2005, 08:41 PM	#7
Frank H User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: N. FL Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bad 1916 Navy My heart sank when I opened the package. The blueing of the barrel and frame didn't match, no halos around the numbers, and the proofs looked new. The 1916 looked too fresh and deep, the side plate was over polished-no sharp edges on the raised part. The firing pin was also strange. I had Keith take a look at it and he agreed that it was not a desirable gun. It a shame someone had to screw this up. The story goes; This came from a collection of 675 lugers in the midwest, Cabelas purchased 75 at this time. If it wouldn't have been for this forum and what I have learned hear, it didn't look that bad! I can't fault Cabelas, they helped out as much as they could, but admitted to knowing little about lugers. So with a 3 day inspection--they will have it back in the morning. Oh well--more money for the SOS and National Gun Day. See you there! Frank H.

01-20-2005, 09:04 PM	#8
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hey Frank H., Glad to hear the Cabellas folks have the no-questions asked 3-day return policy... Did you happen to notice the size of the rear toggle pin flange on this 1916 Navy ? See you at the SOS...let's plan dinner ! Tom Beasley will be there as well...and the Navy Cabal guys as well...should have a nice LF dinner group... Another Cabellas offering that looks very odd is the 1920's long barrel...I am not an expert...but would not expect a carbine to have three (3) sights as this one does...the front sight, the rear carbine sight, and the other rear sight on the rear toggle link... http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/co...carb_owa.jhtml Maybe Waffenfabrik-USA is having trouble selling lugers and is now trying to use legit outfits to do consignment sales...??? Noticed the 1920 carbine the folks at Simspons LTD are selling only has two (2) sights...the rear toggle link is absent the v-notch sight... http://www.simpsonltd.com/LugerRoom/.../OK-04%20E.jpg Pete... Last edited by Pete Ebbink; 01-29-2005 at 03:27 PM.

01-20-2005, 09:08 PM	#9
Frank H User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: N. FL Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1916 Navy It was thin and when put in place it came out the other side. I get in Thursday at 11:15 p.m. I'll see you there. Derek said bring good walking shoes and MONEY!

01-27-2005, 12:18 AM	#11
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Cabelas' Lugers... Well...enough cards & letters must have been sent in. No more luger offerings at Cabelas...

01-06-2005, 11:03 PM	#2
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Hello Pete, Could be a Commercial Banner 42 dated. Those had strawed parts & late ones had plastic grips. Some were contract made for Sweden & Switzerland. SN suffix could tell a bit more In any case, those are not frequently encountered........and this one looks nice !! MARK

01-06-2005, 11:31 PM	#3
tracyp User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 391 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Pete, I agree with you, many look reworked. The straw looks too good on the 42 banner. I wonder what the serial number is? Tracy

01-07-2005, 07:01 PM	#4
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 529 Thanks: 0 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	The arty ("DWM 07") that has already sold looks OK to me in photos but the rest look suspicious. Grip wear on some does not correspond with straw and blue. Notice the unusual front sights on the 1918 Erfurt and the other arty for sale. The Erfurt sight has a step like an M1900 and the arty sight is shaped like a pyramid. KFS

01-12-2005, 02:59 AM	#5
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I have seen a few Lugers at Cabelas here in Michigan and they all seemed to have been redone and there weren't any bargains there. I mentioned to the sales people that I had a few Lugers that I might consider selling and they got real excited. I don't think that these boys see many of the real good Lugers. If they do, then the staff buys them. But I don't think that I would sell through Cabelas. I could make more money selling someplace else. Why pull in a needless middleman? Big Norm

01-12-2005, 10:21 AM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Norm, I noticed these particular luger are being sold in a MN store at Cabellas... Maybe folks in the midwest that cannot sell such pieces, themselves, are now having Cabellas do consignment sales... Pete...

01-22-2005, 01:06 PM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	It might help the folks at this MN-State Cabelas shop to hear from some of the members at the Luger Forum about the lugers they have offered on their web site. I am convinced the good folks at Cabelas would not knowingly sell such "not right" lugers at high retail prices if they knew better. If they hear enough from us here on the Forum and get enough returned lugers during their inspection period, they may decide to no longer handle sales of such "not right" lugers in the future. Would hate to think that the colletion of 675 other lugers hits their store...if these first offerings are a typical example of guns to come... Here is the Owattona Cabelas shop web site : owagl@cabelas.com Regards, Pete...

03-04-2005, 11:10 AM	#12
The Virginian User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Potomac Falls, Virginia USA Posts: 107 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Does anyone know if Cabela's will ship to a C&R? __________________ All my C&R guns are shooters

03-04-2005, 11:33 AM	#13
Frank H User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: N. FL Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, and no trouble with returns.