Trier District Police

SteveM · 09-11-2005, 09:16 PM

Here is some pics of my Trier District P08. I'll leave it up to the forum members to decipher where it has been and who has worked on it. It would be a good exercise for the newer collectors.

Ron Smith · 09-11-2005, 10:18 PM

Steve,
Nice "scarce, if not rare" Police rework. LandjÃ?Â¤gerei unit marks come second only to Reichswehr unit marks for my interests.

Thanks for letting us see it. Ron

Pete Ebbink · 09-11-2005, 10:38 PM

Why would the barrel have "4" on it...

Don M · 09-11-2005, 10:52 PM

Steve,

Ron's "Scarce, if not rare" is an understatement! To my knowledge, this may be the only extant example of a police unit mark from the Trier District. Thank you very much for posting these photos. May I have your permission to use it in future publications?

I, too, will be very interested in hearing some expert opinions on all the other proofs and marks.

SteveM · 09-11-2005, 11:08 PM

Ron,

Your welcome.

Don,

Not a problem. I thought that you would be interested since you did not have another example.

Pete,

I don't know what the 4 on the barrel represents unless it is some sort of grade. The diameter 8.84 is somewhat unusual as you don't see many with
this diameter. At least I haven't.

Dwight Gruber · 09-12-2005, 02:11 AM

Started out life as a 1918 DWM LP-08.

Simson barrel. Left marks: Simson eagle/6 inspection stamp from 1920; 1920 Simson Revisions-Commision eagle/RC.

Right barrel: Simson test proof, probably 1920; PTV "Police Armory" stamp (jury is still out on "Technical Police").

No inspection stamp on replacement rear toggle link, which is unusual.

4 is anomalous. The odd 8,84 land diameter could result from Simson manufacturing practices.

--Dwight

09-11-2005, 09:16 PM	#1
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Trier District Police Here is some pics of my Trier District P08. I'll leave it up to the forum members to decipher where it has been and who has worked on it. It would be a good exercise for the newer collectors.

09-11-2005, 10:18 PM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Steve, Nice "scarce, if not rare" Police rework. LandjÃ?Â¤gerei unit marks come second only to Reichswehr unit marks for my interests. Thanks for letting us see it. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

09-11-2005, 10:52 PM	#4
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Steve, Ron's "Scarce, if not rare" is an understatement! To my knowledge, this may be the only extant example of a police unit mark from the Trier District. Thank you very much for posting these photos. May I have your permission to use it in future publications? I, too, will be very interested in hearing some expert opinions on all the other proofs and marks. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

09-11-2005, 10:38 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Why would the barrel have "4" on it...

09-11-2005, 11:08 PM	#5
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Ron, Your welcome. Don, Not a problem. I thought that you would be interested since you did not have another example. Pete, I don't know what the 4 on the barrel represents unless it is some sort of grade. The diameter 8.84 is somewhat unusual as you don't see many with this diameter. At least I haven't.

09-12-2005, 02:11 AM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	Started out life as a 1918 DWM LP-08. Simson barrel. Left marks: Simson eagle/6 inspection stamp from 1920; 1920 Simson Revisions-Commision eagle/RC. Right barrel: Simson test proof, probably 1920; PTV "Police Armory" stamp (jury is still out on "Technical Police"). No inspection stamp on replacement rear toggle link, which is unusual. 4 is anomalous. The odd 8,84 land diameter could result from Simson manufacturing practices. --Dwight