Tragedy strikes my new Erfurt.......

P. J. Heck · 05-10-2005, 09:19 AM

In the course of examining my newly purchased 1918 Erfurt #6423m, I noticed a large amount of wheel bearing grease in and around the breech block. I tooth brushed this area w/Hoppes #9. When I went to clean the blackish mess off the firing pin, I found out why it was there............Camouflage.........the firing pin lug had been broken off and silver soldered back poorly............Is there anyone in the whole wide world who can fix this properly now?????????? Are there any #23 Erfurt firing pins out there (or a parts condition gun for that matter?????). Unmarked Erfurt finish firing pin??????? How about Erfurt proofed grip screws in nice condition?????? I have a request in to Tom Heller but am rushing ahead just in case............

Lugerdoc · 05-10-2005, 12:23 PM

PJ, Sorry no #23 Erfurt proofed FP or grip screws. If your Erfurt is 1916 or after, it probably didn't have proofed grip screws to start with. TH

P. J. Heck · 05-10-2005, 01:06 PM

Thanks, Tom H. I didnt think the later Erfurts had proofed grip screws but they are really neat.......

policeluger · 05-10-2005, 02:22 PM

Post a picture of it if you can....bet I can get it back correct

Ron Wood · 05-10-2005, 03:07 PM

Glad you posted Howard. I was just getting ready to tell P.J. that if he wanted some super TIG-welding restoration done, you do great work.

P. J. Heck · 05-11-2005, 07:47 AM

I returned the firing pin to the seller. I will be more comfortable w/him seeing it. He tells me he has a qualified repairman. I will contact him for further discussion Friday/Sat.

thegundude · 05-11-2005, 11:55 AM

Man. That's just wrong. I'd be pretty steamed at the seller.... >:-(

P. J. Heck · 05-11-2005, 02:32 PM

I am satisfied that there is no problem w/seller. The dirty grease inside the guns breech area was very old and dirty, and smelled like old grease. I know he DID NOT know it..........I am not in the least angry, I am far more interested in getting a proper repair. I want to keep this gun!!!!!

policeluger · 05-11-2005, 04:34 PM

Thanks Ron. He has PM'ed me, perhaps we'll get the job and fix it for him....have a good one

P. J. Heck · 05-12-2005, 10:24 AM

If I can get it on, here is a picture of me with a consolation gun to atone for several less than satisfying Luger events recently. Mission accomplished, I have eliminated several dangerous 5 gallon cans in a pond........

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/pictures_135.jpg

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05-10-2005, 09:19 AM	#1
P. J. Heck User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tragedy strikes my new Erfurt....... In the course of examining my newly purchased 1918 Erfurt #6423m, I noticed a large amount of wheel bearing grease in and around the breech block. I tooth brushed this area w/Hoppes #9. When I went to clean the blackish mess off the firing pin, I found out why it was there............Camouflage.........the firing pin lug had been broken off and silver soldered back poorly............Is there anyone in the whole wide world who can fix this properly now?????????? Are there any #23 Erfurt firing pins out there (or a parts condition gun for that matter?????). Unmarked Erfurt finish firing pin??????? How about Erfurt proofed grip screws in nice condition?????? I have a request in to Tom Heller but am rushing ahead just in case............ __________________ There are no bad guns!

05-10-2005, 01:06 PM	#3
P. J. Heck User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks, Tom H. I didnt think the later Erfurts had proofed grip screws but they are really neat....... __________________ There are no bad guns!

05-10-2005, 03:07 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Glad you posted Howard. I was just getting ready to tell P.J. that if he wanted some super TIG-welding restoration done, you do great work. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-11-2005, 11:55 AM	#7
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Man. That's just wrong. I'd be pretty steamed at the seller.... >:-( __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

05-11-2005, 02:32 PM	#8
P. J. Heck User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am satisfied that there is no problem w/seller. The dirty grease inside the guns breech area was very old and dirty, and smelled like old grease. I know he DID NOT know it..........I am not in the least angry, I am far more interested in getting a proper repair. I want to keep this gun!!!!! __________________ There are no bad guns!

05-10-2005, 12:23 PM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	PJ, Sorry no #23 Erfurt proofed FP or grip screws. If your Erfurt is 1916 or after, it probably didn't have proofed grip screws to start with. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

05-10-2005, 02:22 PM	#4
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Post a picture of it if you can....bet I can get it back correct

05-11-2005, 07:47 AM	#6
P. J. Heck User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I returned the firing pin to the seller. I will be more comfortable w/him seeing it. He tells me he has a qualified repairman. I will contact him for further discussion Friday/Sat. __________________ There are no bad guns!

05-11-2005, 04:34 PM	#9
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Thanks Ron. He has PM'ed me, perhaps we'll get the job and fix it for him....have a good one

05-12-2005, 10:24 AM	#10
P. J. Heck User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Life after Erfurt tragedy If I can get it on, here is a picture of me with a consolation gun to atone for several less than satisfying Luger events recently. Mission accomplished, I have eliminated several dangerous 5 gallon cans in a pond........ http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/pictures_135.jpg [IMG]http://[/IMG] Attached Thumbnails __________________ There are no bad guns!