Lugers CAN shoot !!

kidvett · 06-13-2004, 09:04 PM

Hello,

A nice morning at the range with a friend & some favorite pistols....I always wanted to see what a Luger could do at 100 yds. I brought my 5 in 30 Cal Shooter and did this target with the help of sandbags.

3 shot group at 1 1/2 inch at 100 yards !! Total 5 shot group in 4 1/4 in....So much for those who say that Lugers cant shoot !!

Ammo used is a 90 gr XTP backed by 7.3 gr Blue Dot with standard primers in Win new brass. Yes it was shooting 10 inch low & 4 inch to the right.....Standard sights.....

Incredible performance in my book !!

I have rarely seen a handgun capable of such !!

Cheers !! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

MARK

Sieger · 06-14-2004, 03:10 AM

Hi:

You need to tighten up that group a bit. With some handloads and a little practice, you should shoot under one inch.

Sieger

Waschbaer · 06-14-2004, 06:27 PM

geez, I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I'm having a good day if I can get twenty rounds into eight to ten inches. Of course that's in windy weather (as if we had anything else here). Wonder what it'd be like at an actual firing range...

Johnny C. Kitchens · 06-14-2004, 09:48 PM

Sieger, are you saying he can get under 1" at 100 yards with the Lugers open sights??? He does that, and we should put him on tour, or enter him professionally in some matches!!!

kidvett · 06-14-2004, 10:21 PM

Hello,

Sieger:

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> Under 1 inch @ 100 yds with a pistol !! Show me this gun !! Photos requested

Best rifles I had/ have are giving one hole groups at 100 yds. I do not expect to get sub MOA accuracy with a pistol at rifle distances......I an already quite astonished by this 1 1/2 in group

Waschbaer,

Wind was minimal, steady rest on sandbags....Difficult part was an innapropriate target....I'll work on something to be able to have a good picture & precise sight alingment on everyshot.....

Johnny C. K.,

I'll take the challenge of sub 1 inch groups

.....should be at the range again within a week.....

I'll keep everyone posted.....

MARK <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Sieger · 06-15-2004, 03:08 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Johnny C. Kitchens:
Sieger, are you saying he can get under 1" at 100 yards with the Lugers open sights??? He does that, and we should put him on tour, or enter him professionally in some matches!!!<hr /></blockquote>Hi:

Yes, with some practice and perfectly matched ammo, one inch or less should be possible at 100 yards (shot off of sand bags).

Over the years, I've outshot quite a few modern scoped rifles, at 75 to 100, yards with my 9mm.

It blows their minds every time.

Sieger

Sieger · 06-15-2004, 03:18 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by kidvett:
[QB]Hello,

Ammo used is a 90 gr XTP backed by 7.3 gr Blue Dot with standard primers in Win new brass.

<hr /></blockquote>I have two Interarms 7.65s (4 3/4) that won't group worth a crap with this powder.

These Interarms Lugers seem to make their own rules in many ways.

Sieger

06-13-2004, 09:04 PM	#1
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Lugers CAN shoot !! Hello, A nice morning at the range with a friend & some favorite pistols....I always wanted to see what a Luger could do at 100 yds. I brought my 5 in 30 Cal Shooter and did this target with the help of sandbags. 3 shot group at 1 1/2 inch at 100 yards !! Total 5 shot group in 4 1/4 in....So much for those who say that Lugers cant shoot !! Ammo used is a 90 gr XTP backed by 7.3 gr Blue Dot with standard primers in Win new brass. Yes it was shooting 10 inch low & 4 inch to the right.....Standard sights..... Incredible performance in my book !! I have rarely seen a handgun capable of such !! Cheers !! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> MARK

06-14-2004, 09:48 PM	#4
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	Sieger, are you saying he can get under 1" at 100 yards with the Lugers open sights??? He does that, and we should put him on tour, or enter him professionally in some matches!!! __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

06-15-2004, 03:08 AM	#6
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Johnny C. Kitchens: <strong>Sieger, are you saying he can get under 1" at 100 yards with the Lugers open sights??? He does that, and we should put him on tour, or enter him professionally in some matches!!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Hi: Yes, with some practice and perfectly matched ammo, one inch or less should be possible at 100 yards (shot off of sand bags). Over the years, I've outshot quite a few modern scoped rifles, at 75 to 100, yards with my 9mm. It blows their minds every time. Sieger

06-15-2004, 03:18 AM	#7
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by kidvett: [QB]Hello, Ammo used is a 90 gr XTP backed by 7.3 gr Blue Dot with standard primers in Win new brass. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">I have two Interarms 7.65s (4 3/4) that won't group worth a crap with this powder. These Interarms Lugers seem to make their own rules in many ways. Sieger

06-14-2004, 03:10 AM	#2
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	Hi: You need to tighten up that group a bit. With some handloads and a little practice, you should shoot under one inch. Sieger

06-14-2004, 06:27 PM	#3
Waschbaer User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	geez, I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I'm having a good day if I can get twenty rounds into eight to ten inches. Of course that's in windy weather (as if we had anything else here). Wonder what it'd be like at an actual firing range...

06-14-2004, 10:21 PM	#5
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Hello, Sieger: <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> Under 1 inch @ 100 yds with a pistol !! Show me this gun !! Photos requested Best rifles I had/ have are giving one hole groups at 100 yds. I do not expect to get sub MOA accuracy with a pistol at rifle distances......I an already quite astonished by this 1 1/2 in group Waschbaer, Wind was minimal, steady rest on sandbags....Difficult part was an innapropriate target....I'll work on something to be able to have a good picture & precise sight alingment on everyshot..... Johnny C. K., I'll take the challenge of sub 1 inch groups .....should be at the range again within a week..... I'll keep everyone posted..... MARK <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />