Real HK...?

John D. · 12-19-2003, 05:01 PM

Hi Pete, Doc and Jerry...!

The E/2 does look absolutely correct - in both stamp and placement.. I, too - would like to know the maker, however..??

Also, as to black or brown being "correct" - the answer is "yes", either may be considered as being "correct". In looking at verified "RIGS" (those coming back as a "RIG", where the holster has not been changed or added or "improved"), Perhaps you will notice some interesting characteristics:

G Date - primarily black (only two have been noted as "RIGS" however - so it it an insignificant sample);
S - Early and Mid - primarily black with some "brown".
Late S - Black primarily;
"36" and "1936" - about 75% black and 25% brown;
1937 - about 60% black and 40% brown;
1940 - about 55% black and 45% brown;
1941 - All black with 3 brown exceptions noted;
1942 and later - Primarily Black

It's interesting, that the preponderance of Brown holsters noted are in the highest productions years - which also may coincide with the Luftwaffe procurement from Mauser for their overall Luger allocation - and coincide with Mauser "peak years". (BTW - this information is from my own database - which can NOT be quoted without permission). However, I'll let folks speculate further as to how/when/where verified brown holsters are properly E/2 proofed - but it should lead to some interesting conclusions, comments and questions..!

Best to all..!

12-19-2003, 05:01 PM	#4
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hi Pete, Doc and Jerry...! The E/2 does look absolutely correct - in both stamp and placement.. I, too - would like to know the maker, however..?? Also, as to black or brown being "correct" - the answer is "yes", either may be considered as being "correct". In looking at verified "RIGS" (those coming back as a "RIG", where the holster has not been changed or added or "improved"), Perhaps you will notice some interesting characteristics: G Date - primarily black (only two have been noted as "RIGS" however - so it it an insignificant sample); S - Early and Mid - primarily black with some "brown". Late S - Black primarily; "36" and "1936" - about 75% black and 25% brown; 1937 - about 60% black and 40% brown; 1940 - about 55% black and 45% brown; 1941 - All black with 3 brown exceptions noted; 1942 and later - Primarily Black It's interesting, that the preponderance of Brown holsters noted are in the highest productions years - which also may coincide with the Luftwaffe procurement from Mauser for their overall Luger allocation - and coincide with Mauser "peak years". (BTW - this information is from my own database - which can NOT be quoted without permission). However, I'll let folks speculate further as to how/when/where verified brown holsters are properly E/2 proofed - but it should lead to some interesting conclusions, comments and questions..! Best to all..!