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Pete Ebbink 12-19-2003 12:11 AM

Real HK...?
 
What do you folks, think...???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=36049

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

drbuster 12-19-2003 09:15 AM

Looks pretty honest to me Pete, except Gibson states that "genuine" HK holsters are black. The E/2 proof looks righteous and when the black dye wears, one can see brown underneath. I'm waiting for Jerry Burney's "take" on this.

lugerholsterrepair 12-19-2003 12:15 PM

Herb,Pete, Very nice looking holster. I took a quick look but could find no maker or code. E/2 stamp looks to be correct and the holster is certainly authentic period. I would guess the color is correct as well. Often a holster starts out brown but is dyed along the way , the dye rubs off and still leaves it darkish but brown in the high spots. Looks pretty nice! Wish I owned it! Thanks, Jerry Burney

John D. 12-19-2003 05:01 PM

Hi Pete, Doc and Jerry...!

The E/2 does look absolutely correct - in both stamp and placement.. I, too - would like to know the maker, however..??

Also, as to black or brown being "correct" - the answer is "yes", either may be considered as being "correct". In looking at verified "RIGS" (those coming back as a "RIG", where the holster has not been changed or added or "improved"), Perhaps you will notice some interesting characteristics:

G Date - primarily black (only two have been noted as "RIGS" however - so it it an insignificant sample);
S - Early and Mid - primarily black with some "brown".
Late S - Black primarily;
"36" and "1936" - about 75% black and 25% brown;
1937 - about 60% black and 40% brown;
1940 - about 55% black and 45% brown;
1941 - All black with 3 brown exceptions noted;
1942 and later - Primarily Black

It's interesting, that the preponderance of Brown holsters noted are in the highest productions years - which also may coincide with the Luftwaffe procurement from Mauser for their overall Luger allocation - and coincide with Mauser "peak years". (BTW - this information is from my own database - which can NOT be quoted without permission). However, I'll let folks speculate further as to how/when/where verified brown holsters are properly E/2 proofed - but it should lead to some interesting conclusions, comments and questions..!

Best to all..!


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