Gun case lining

Stu · 05-26-2003, 02:30 PM

I've a friend in the cabinetry business whose offered to build me a case so he can try out a couple of ideas.

The only drawback is he's insisting on lining the interior in leather. I'm assuming this is a bad idea based on the fact that a) all the cases I've seen have some type of cloth inside and b) storing a pistol in a leather holster isn't a good idea, so a leather lined case would be no better.

Would anyone agree with my gut feeling, and could they give me a reasoned argument against the leather interior, (will trap moisture against the gun etc).

What would people recommend as the ideal lining material ?

Thanks for the help, Stu

Navy · 05-26-2003, 03:31 PM

Leather is about the worst thing to keep a gun in contact with. It retains moisture, has chemicals from the tanning process that are corrosive and, since it is an organic substance, provides nourishment for critters who may do far more damage. Ever seen what mouse urine does to blued steel? It ain't pretty.
Tom A.

G.T. · 05-26-2003, 05:37 PM

Sorry Guys! The spell check ate my post??? The material you want to use called is ultra suede! Till..later...GT

Stu · 05-26-2003, 05:56 PM

Thanks for the comments and ideas gentlemen. I think I lean towards the felt / baize type material, it just seems right, but I need to check out the ultra suede, (sounds like it would go well with my Aimco).

Apparently this is going to be a 'french fit' case, we shall see if it ever gets built !

Russ · 05-26-2003, 06:13 PM

A frend of mine builds cases and he uses billiad cloth

Russ.

G.T. · 05-26-2003, 06:24 PM

Hi Russ! Pool table felt works real well...it is almost the same as the original type of mateial.. at least it looks quite close... but, ultra suede is super neat, as it is synthetic, and has the look and feel of doe skin... the best feature is that it stretches along one dimension for those difficult compound curves that alway attack on projects like this! (so does the felt,BTW) I'll go back into my lair now! Best to all...till...later...GT

G.T. · 05-26-2003, 11:30 PM

Also! The best glue to use is 3M general spray adhesive... NOT the yellow stuff for vinyl tops...
It's the white stuff that sprays out like cotton candy... or for our Canadian friends...candyfloss!

Best of luck to ya! till...later...GT

susan · 05-27-2003, 12:06 AM

you may or may not find that fabric called ultra suede now..that was sort of a catch all term for any fabric with that sort of nap. some was nylon, some were blends. a great fabric now on the market is commonly called microfibre, and again, a catch all term for the tight weave used. the microfibre that looks like suede is made of 100% polyester. it really does look and feel like suede, and depending upon the color, if it were in a box as you describe it would be very tough to say if it was or was not suede. it can be washed, is extremely durable, and colors are great. be warned; like any polyester fabric, it has an oil affinity. some oil stains will be permanent.
susan

Weissen · 05-27-2003, 05:48 AM

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G.T. · 05-28-2003, 12:09 AM

Hi Susan! Thanks for the update on the material! It's sad to say, but the ultra suede certainly does date me as old, as it was at least 10 years since I used it for a custom box lining! It was certainly some neat stuff though.... Thanks again for the up date...till...later..GT

Thor · 05-28-2003, 07:38 PM

I have this crazy dream of Dok lining my presentation case for my K date with gold velvet! Still havent found any, I was thinking perhaps folks that makes flags might have it.
TOM A!!! It aint purty what Cat pee does to bluing either!

susan · 06-01-2003, 12:59 AM

Thor: there is a new cottage industry out there; vintage fabric collectors. you can find ads in decorating magazines. someone definately has it. but since that color and fabric are currently en vogue, you should be able to find it done up in pillows at pier one.
GT: thanks for the affirmation. i don't have ANY luger info to pass along; i am learning here. but i am more than happy to pass along any peripheral expertise i do have. susan

Edward Tinker · 06-01-2003, 01:15 AM

Susan, this is why it is nice to have diversity in the hobby!

You never know where you'll learn something. When I was in the Army, many Sergeants would figure that the new Private coming into the Platoon was a dumb bunny, didn't know anything.

Well, I knew better, he might be a computer whiz, or good at hunting and perfect as a point-man for the platoon, or a natural athlete. No, I always figured that everyone is good at something, because there is too much I don't know,

Ed

05-26-2003, 02:30 PM	#1
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 452 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Gun case lining I've a friend in the cabinetry business whose offered to build me a case so he can try out a couple of ideas. The only drawback is he's insisting on lining the interior in leather. I'm assuming this is a bad idea based on the fact that a) all the cases I've seen have some type of cloth inside and b) storing a pistol in a leather holster isn't a good idea, so a leather lined case would be no better. Would anyone agree with my gut feeling, and could they give me a reasoned argument against the leather interior, (will trap moisture against the gun etc). What would people recommend as the ideal lining material ? Thanks for the help, Stu

05-26-2003, 06:13 PM	#5
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	A frend of mine builds cases and he uses billiad cloth Russ. __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

05-27-2003, 05:48 AM	#9
Weissen User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South Australia Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"> cotton candy... or for our Canadian friends...candyfloss! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Ha ha...we call it fairyfloss down here...no jokin' <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

05-28-2003, 07:38 PM	#11
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	I have this crazy dream of Dok lining my presentation case for my K date with gold velvet! Still havent found any, I was thinking perhaps folks that makes flags might have it. TOM A!!! It aint purty what Cat pee does to bluing either! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-01-2003, 01:15 AM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	Susan, this is why it is nice to have diversity in the hobby! You never know where you'll learn something. When I was in the Army, many Sergeants would figure that the new Private coming into the Platoon was a dumb bunny, didn't know anything. Well, I knew better, he might be a computer whiz, or good at hunting and perfect as a point-man for the platoon, or a natural athlete. No, I always figured that everyone is good at something, because there is too much I don't know, Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-26-2003, 03:31 PM	#2
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Leather is about the worst thing to keep a gun in contact with. It retains moisture, has chemicals from the tanning process that are corrosive and, since it is an organic substance, provides nourishment for critters who may do far more damage. Ever seen what mouse urine does to blued steel? It ain't pretty. Tom A.

05-26-2003, 05:37 PM	#3
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	Sorry Guys! The spell check ate my post??? The material you want to use called is ultra suede! Till..later...GT

05-26-2003, 05:56 PM	#4
Stu User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 452 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Thanks for the comments and ideas gentlemen. I think I lean towards the felt / baize type material, it just seems right, but I need to check out the ultra suede, (sounds like it would go well with my Aimco). Apparently this is going to be a 'french fit' case, we shall see if it ever gets built !

05-26-2003, 06:24 PM	#6
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	Hi Russ! Pool table felt works real well...it is almost the same as the original type of mateial.. at least it looks quite close... but, ultra suede is super neat, as it is synthetic, and has the look and feel of doe skin... the best feature is that it stretches along one dimension for those difficult compound curves that alway attack on projects like this! (so does the felt,BTW) I'll go back into my lair now! Best to all...till...later...GT

05-26-2003, 11:30 PM	#7
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	Also! The best glue to use is 3M general spray adhesive... NOT the yellow stuff for vinyl tops... It's the white stuff that sprays out like cotton candy... or for our Canadian friends...candyfloss! Best of luck to ya! till...later...GT

05-27-2003, 12:06 AM	#8
susan User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 45 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	you may or may not find that fabric called ultra suede now..that was sort of a catch all term for any fabric with that sort of nap. some was nylon, some were blends. a great fabric now on the market is commonly called microfibre, and again, a catch all term for the tight weave used. the microfibre that looks like suede is made of 100% polyester. it really does look and feel like suede, and depending upon the color, if it were in a box as you describe it would be very tough to say if it was or was not suede. it can be washed, is extremely durable, and colors are great. be warned; like any polyester fabric, it has an oil affinity. some oil stains will be permanent. susan

05-28-2003, 12:09 AM	#10
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	Hi Susan! Thanks for the update on the material! It's sad to say, but the ultra suede certainly does date me as old, as it was at least 10 years since I used it for a custom box lining! It was certainly some neat stuff though.... Thanks again for the up date...till...later..GT

06-01-2003, 12:59 AM	#12
susan User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 45 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thor: there is a new cottage industry out there; vintage fabric collectors. you can find ads in decorating magazines. someone definately has it. but since that color and fabric are currently en vogue, you should be able to find it done up in pillows at pier one. GT: thanks for the affirmation. i don't have ANY luger info to pass along; i am learning here. but i am more than happy to pass along any peripheral expertise i do have. susan