luger not locking open after last round

crownvic96 · 06-10-2003, 01:24 PM

hey guys just got back from the range again. i have a 70's mauser 7.65mm 6" barreled luger. i have the factory mag and a mec-gar mag for it and after the last round the receiver still closes. being kinda a newbie to this gun i was wondering if there is anything in particular i should look at tonight when i get off of work.

another thing, my magazine release button doesn't feel very "springy" and the magazine doesn't really eject or some loose at all, i just have to push in the button and remove the mag with my fingers.

any suggestions/tips/fixes for either of these problems will of course be greatly appreciated.

thanks
Justin

John Sabato · 06-10-2003, 01:58 PM

Things to look for:

Check the edges of the front of the holdopen and see if it is burred.

Check the notch on the bottom of the breechbolt that is caught by the holdopen and see if it has burrs.

remove the grips...(and with the weapon unloaded naturally) does the bolt lock back on an empty magazine? Does it do it consistently?

The holdopen action is a function of the pressure of the magazine loading button on the holdopen... check for freedom of movement of the holdopen.

Does the magazine drop free when the mag button is pushed and the grips have been removed? If it does, then either the inside of the grips are touching the magazine or your grip screws are too long and are touching the magazine when tightened down.

If these suggestions don't pan out, let me know and I'll open some memory files that haven't been used in years

and see if I can come up with some other reason.

Regarding the spongyness of the mag release button. Does it feel this way with the grips removed?

crownvic96 · 06-10-2003, 03:18 PM

let me remove the grips and get back to you this evening.

crownvic96 · 06-10-2003, 03:26 PM

kinda getting off the main subject i would like to add that using a loading tool(came in the mail yesterday) makes it much more enjoyable to shoot these guns. not having bleeding thumbs and skin flying everywhere each time you reload a mag. is a good thing

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crownvic96 · 06-10-2003, 09:30 PM

i know this may sound crazy but i double checked the parts diagram here and on marstar and it does not appear that there is a holdopen on this gun lol. which may explain why nothing is being held open. i see the notch in the top of the fram for it to go and there is nothing there.

the mags do drop freely with the grips removed however. not having a luger or any real pics to compare to is kinda putting me in a bind.

still shoots fun so thats all i'm really concerned about at this time. guess i may need to hook up with roadkill and have him take a gander at my piece.

crownvic96 · 06-10-2003, 09:46 PM

ok here's a pic hopefully this can help

Jim Keenan · 06-10-2003, 09:57 PM

Golly, that is probably the reason the holdopen does not work. Gun Parts Corp. (www.gunpartscorp.com) shows them in the catalog for $42 including the spring.

Jim

crownvic96 · 06-10-2003, 10:20 PM

great, more expenses just what i needed. i just burned 75 bucks for a navy holster, the ammo makes my 45acp costs look like i'm shooting .22lr. crikey i can't win. at least it shoots and it brings me great joy and happiness to do that so its not all that bad i guess.

when life hands you lemons make spiked lemonade

Marvin · 06-11-2003, 07:21 AM

You will need the holdopen and the spring! I would highly recommend that you contact Tom Heller for these parts, His phone number is 636-447-3006 or e-mail at <hellerarms@webtv.net>.

I have bought the parts from Gun Parts and they are not good quality. The spring is not "springy" and the holdopen will require fitting. Tom can take care of you and give you quality parts.

Marvin

Lugerdoc · 06-11-2003, 08:47 AM

Crownvic, I still have plenty of these original new Mauser Parabellum holdopens with spring @$50 + $1 S&H, from the parts that I bought from Interarms years ago. TH

06-10-2003, 01:24 PM	#1
crownvic96 User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	luger not locking open after last round hey guys just got back from the range again. i have a 70's mauser 7.65mm 6" barreled luger. i have the factory mag and a mec-gar mag for it and after the last round the receiver still closes. being kinda a newbie to this gun i was wondering if there is anything in particular i should look at tonight when i get off of work. another thing, my magazine release button doesn't feel very "springy" and the magazine doesn't really eject or some loose at all, i just have to push in the button and remove the mag with my fingers. any suggestions/tips/fixes for either of these problems will of course be greatly appreciated. thanks Justin

06-10-2003, 01:58 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Things to look for: Check the edges of the front of the holdopen and see if it is burred. Check the notch on the bottom of the breechbolt that is caught by the holdopen and see if it has burrs. remove the grips...(and with the weapon unloaded naturally) does the bolt lock back on an empty magazine? Does it do it consistently? The holdopen action is a function of the pressure of the magazine loading button on the holdopen... check for freedom of movement of the holdopen. Does the magazine drop free when the mag button is pushed and the grips have been removed? If it does, then either the inside of the grips are touching the magazine or your grip screws are too long and are touching the magazine when tightened down. If these suggestions don't pan out, let me know and I'll open some memory files that haven't been used in years and see if I can come up with some other reason. Regarding the spongyness of the mag release button. Does it feel this way with the grips removed? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-11-2003, 08:47 AM	#10
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Crownvic, I still have plenty of these original new Mauser Parabellum holdopens with spring @$50 + $1 S&H, from the parts that I bought from Interarms years ago. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-10-2003, 03:18 PM	#3
crownvic96 User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	let me remove the grips and get back to you this evening.

06-10-2003, 03:26 PM	#4
crownvic96 User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	kinda getting off the main subject i would like to add that using a loading tool(came in the mail yesterday) makes it much more enjoyable to shoot these guns. not having bleeding thumbs and skin flying everywhere each time you reload a mag. is a good thing .

06-10-2003, 09:30 PM	#5
crownvic96 User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i know this may sound crazy but i double checked the parts diagram here and on marstar and it does not appear that there is a holdopen on this gun lol. which may explain why nothing is being held open. i see the notch in the top of the fram for it to go and there is nothing there. the mags do drop freely with the grips removed however. not having a luger or any real pics to compare to is kinda putting me in a bind. still shoots fun so thats all i'm really concerned about at this time. guess i may need to hook up with roadkill and have him take a gander at my piece.

06-10-2003, 09:46 PM	#6
crownvic96 User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok here's a pic hopefully this can help

06-10-2003, 09:57 PM	#7
Jim Keenan User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Golly, that is probably the reason the holdopen does not work. Gun Parts Corp. (www.gunpartscorp.com) shows them in the catalog for $42 including the spring. Jim

06-10-2003, 10:20 PM	#8
crownvic96 User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	great, more expenses just what i needed. i just burned 75 bucks for a navy holster, the ammo makes my 45acp costs look like i'm shooting .22lr. crikey i can't win. at least it shoots and it brings me great joy and happiness to do that so its not all that bad i guess. when life hands you lemons make spiked lemonade

06-11-2003, 07:21 AM	#9
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You will need the holdopen and the spring! I would highly recommend that you contact Tom Heller for these parts, His phone number is 636-447-3006 or e-mail at <hellerarms@webtv.net>. I have bought the parts from Gun Parts and they are not good quality. The spring is not "springy" and the holdopen will require fitting. Tom can take care of you and give you quality parts. Marvin