Odd take-down tool

George Anderson · 11-24-2003, 12:11 PM

I have come across a take-down tool with a proof unknown to me. It is a capital "W" in Roman font with a squarish shield above it. I can email a photo if that would help.

Ron Wood · 11-24-2003, 12:29 PM

Email a photo...it would help. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

George Anderson · 11-24-2003, 12:49 PM

On the way Ron.

Ron Wood · 11-24-2003, 03:46 PM

Here it is. I haven't a clue. Will have to hit the books.

George Anderson · 11-24-2003, 04:33 PM

Ron, I've been through my books and come up empty handed. Someone suggested that it was Dutch (Wilhelmina) but I tend to toss that out.

Ron Wood · 11-24-2003, 04:41 PM

Good toss...I don't think it is Dutch either.

John Sabato · 11-24-2003, 06:35 PM

George... could you possibly take the photo with a little more focus and zoom on just the stamp... I have tried examining the stamp under high magnification but it gets too pixelated too fast to see the image...

I know my eyes could be better, but let me bounce this off you guys and see if you can "picture" what I "see" here... could this be an eagle over a swastika that has been flattened by the shield shaped mark to obliterate it? as is required in some European nations? The "W" could be anything... I can't find this mark in any of my books either...

Just my guess that probably doesn't even add up to

Doug G. · 11-24-2003, 09:44 PM

George, any of these look like it?

GERMAN STATE'S COAT OF ARMS - An old image showing the German National Arms between the arms of the former West German States and their predecessors : small shield from top left (year of oldest picture): Hamburg (1450), Bremen (1369), Braunschweig-Grubenhagen (1390), Berlin (1460), Hessen (1247), Bayern (1302), Schwaben (1216), SaarbrÃ?Â¼cken (1284), Rheinpfalz (1252), Westfalen (1480) and Schleswig-Holstein (1386); Main shield: Hamburg, Bremen, Niedersachsen, Berlin, Hessen, Bayern, Baden-WÃ?Â¼rttemberg, Saarland, Rheinland-Pfalz, Nordrhein-Westfalen and Schleswig-Holstein.
Germany is divided in States (LÃ?Â¤nder). These states are subdivided in Landkreise or Rural districts, which are made up of municipalities (Gemeinden) and Kreisfreie StÃ?Â¤dte, or cities. In some states municipalities are combined into Ã??mter and Grossgemeinden (larger bodies, but the individual municipalities still exist).
Source: Heraldik aus 9 Jahrhunderten - zur Geschichte des Familienwappens.

ratdog · 11-25-2003, 06:48 AM

Looks like the Anheuser Busch "A" logo,just a thought..................

G.W. Gill · 11-26-2003, 11:36 PM

Several years ago I had one with just W or M on it. No crest or anything. It got legs at a shoot. Wondered whether it belonged to some navy type issue.

11-24-2003, 12:11 PM	#1
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,530 Times in 787 Posts	Odd take-down tool I have come across a take-down tool with a proof unknown to me. It is a capital "W" in Roman font with a squarish shield above it. I can email a photo if that would help.

11-24-2003, 12:29 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,091 Thanked 5,180 Times in 1,703 Posts	Email a photo...it would help. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-24-2003, 03:46 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,091 Thanked 5,180 Times in 1,703 Posts	Here it is. I haven't a clue. Will have to hit the books. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-24-2003, 04:41 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,091 Thanked 5,180 Times in 1,703 Posts	Good toss...I don't think it is Dutch either. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-24-2003, 06:35 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	George... could you possibly take the photo with a little more focus and zoom on just the stamp... I have tried examining the stamp under high magnification but it gets too pixelated too fast to see the image... I know my eyes could be better, but let me bounce this off you guys and see if you can "picture" what I "see" here... could this be an eagle over a swastika that has been flattened by the shield shaped mark to obliterate it? as is required in some European nations? The "W" could be anything... I can't find this mark in any of my books either... Just my guess that probably doesn't even add up to __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-24-2003, 12:49 PM	#3
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,530 Times in 787 Posts	On the way Ron.

11-24-2003, 04:33 PM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,530 Times in 787 Posts	Ron, I've been through my books and come up empty handed. Someone suggested that it was Dutch (Wilhelmina) but I tend to toss that out.

11-24-2003, 09:44 PM	#8
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	George, any of these look like it? GERMAN STATE'S COAT OF ARMS - An old image showing the German National Arms between the arms of the former West German States and their predecessors : small shield from top left (year of oldest picture): Hamburg (1450), Bremen (1369), Braunschweig-Grubenhagen (1390), Berlin (1460), Hessen (1247), Bayern (1302), Schwaben (1216), SaarbrÃ?Â¼cken (1284), Rheinpfalz (1252), Westfalen (1480) and Schleswig-Holstein (1386); Main shield: Hamburg, Bremen, Niedersachsen, Berlin, Hessen, Bayern, Baden-WÃ?Â¼rttemberg, Saarland, Rheinland-Pfalz, Nordrhein-Westfalen and Schleswig-Holstein. Germany is divided in States (LÃ?Â¤nder). These states are subdivided in Landkreise or Rural districts, which are made up of municipalities (Gemeinden) and Kreisfreie StÃ?Â¤dte, or cities. In some states municipalities are combined into Ã??mter and Grossgemeinden (larger bodies, but the individual municipalities still exist). Source: Heraldik aus 9 Jahrhunderten - zur Geschichte des Familienwappens. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

11-25-2003, 06:48 AM	#9
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looks like the Anheuser Busch "A" logo,just a thought..................

11-26-2003, 11:36 PM	#10
G.W. Gill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Several years ago I had one with just W or M on it. No crest or anything. It got legs at a shoot. Wondered whether it belonged to some navy type issue.