LugarMan Referances

Mac Cat · 02-24-2024, 06:08 PM

Yes, me too !!!
I ordered one at the same time you did.
They posted details on the forum and then took it down a few weeks later.
They call it the P2020 on their web site.

Eugene has never replied to any of my emails.
So, I call them every few months.
Yesterday, they told me that they only got 10 orders for the pistols.

They assured me that they will contact buyers to review their shipping instructions and FFL address details, when the guns are ready.

I was also told they are test firing 7 pistols this week.
Still no ETA.

Meanwhile, I have also bought some spare luger parts from them.

And, I have to admit, we all were forewarned that he was notoriously slow with his restoration work and not to expect anything soon. I also know that the Pandemic caused delays with new equipment.

I'm not making excuses for them.
I have faith and I very much support his craftsmanship.

I always considered my order as an investment to help keep them in business, because we really do need some active luger gunsmiths.

The other US luger manufactures here in the states have been a big disappointment.

big open · 02-25-2024, 08:24 PM

Mac Cat
Thanks for your reply and to know someone else ordered a .45 1907 test trials replica about the same time I did. I hope I can receive the piece sometime this spring. The last time I talked with them on the phone I was told maybe they will ship sometime in April. I hope that is true.

JohnW...ski · 07-10-2024, 03:30 PM

An update here, LugerMan received the C96 8-7-23, I contacted them January of 2024, was told the barrel is on and there is a problem with blueing, contacted them today, 7-10-24, the barrel is not on and they are working on it. This is an order that is paid up front.

Will have to wait and see where this goes.

xjda68 · 10-29-2024, 02:37 PM

I ordered paid in full a P2020 on May 11, 2023. Received an email receipt and was told "We look forward to fulfilling your order soon." Five months later emailed inquiring time frame and was told by Eugene "7-8 month at the time of order placement". So, I again emailed a year after order paced and received this message from Eugene "We have started shipping P2020 models early this year" (2024). "Our current speed of delivery is 2 orders a week, your order is scheduled to come out and be ready for shipping in 6 weeks."
Well,,, 6 weeks come and goes and nothing. So, I emailed again July 25th, 2024, and I am told it will ship in 3 months. I email back and give thanks for the quickly replied to email. he replies to that email saying "we are not going broke, all parts for guns have been made, we are assembling, testing and shipping every week,
it's just slower then expected." Well,, I never asked or accused him of such so I don't know why I received that email.
Three months goes by and nothing. So, I send another email and crickets. I have a friend that lives in Pennsylvania and he agrees to take a weekend stroll with his wife and have a look see. He tells me he thinks it has been closed for some time. Now I am really worried. The BBB gives him an "F" as the rash of complaints all have been "Unanswered" and not responded to. I see a few people on the NET saying they had to get local government offices involved to get a refund. I have seen this before with other once reputable outfits and I think he is in over his head and may have just given up or he is ill. So, I guess I kiss my almost $4,000 goodby.
Don't know what else to think when he says they are shipping 2 orders a week out of 80 orders starting early 2024. So, if one does the math then all orders would have been shipped.

I am retired now but had run to medium sized businesses and always delivered on time and kept on schedule. I also helped out part time on Saturdays in two different gun shops that had done custom gunsmithing. One made $4,000 1911's. So, I kind of know how things work.

Very concerned at this point!

gunbugs · 10-29-2024, 10:14 PM

OOF. Not good. You would think he would at least talk to his customers. Rick at SMG only asked for 100 bucks to hold my place in line for the FG42, (about 2 1/2 year delivery, if I remember correctly),and asked for payment when he was about 30 days out from shipping. Sent me a photo of a line of guns ready to go out shortly before I got mine. He would periodically update me on the progress of getting materials and building the guns. Eugene, it seems, is pretty much the opposite. Too bad, I was impressed with his restoration work.

02-25-2024, 08:24 PM	#2
big open Banned Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: northwest Montana in a remote area. Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 68 Times in 27 Posts	Lugerman Delays Mac Cat Thanks for your reply and to know someone else ordered a .45 1907 test trials replica about the same time I did. I hope I can receive the piece sometime this spring. The last time I talked with them on the phone I was told maybe they will ship sometime in April. I hope that is true.

07-10-2024, 03:30 PM	#3
JohnW...ski User Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 3 Posts	LugerMan An update here, LugerMan received the C96 8-7-23, I contacted them January of 2024, was told the barrel is on and there is a problem with blueing, contacted them today, 7-10-24, the barrel is not on and they are working on it. This is an order that is paid up front. Will have to wait and see where this goes.

10-29-2024, 02:37 PM	#4
xjda68 New User Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Promises by nothing. I ordered paid in full a P2020 on May 11, 2023. Received an email receipt and was told "We look forward to fulfilling your order soon." Five months later emailed inquiring time frame and was told by Eugene "7-8 month at the time of order placement". So, I again emailed a year after order paced and received this message from Eugene "We have started shipping P2020 models early this year" (2024). "Our current speed of delivery is 2 orders a week, your order is scheduled to come out and be ready for shipping in 6 weeks." Well,,, 6 weeks come and goes and nothing. So, I emailed again July 25th, 2024, and I am told it will ship in 3 months. I email back and give thanks for the quickly replied to email. he replies to that email saying "we are not going broke, all parts for guns have been made, we are assembling, testing and shipping every week, it's just slower then expected." Well,, I never asked or accused him of such so I don't know why I received that email. Three months goes by and nothing. So, I send another email and crickets. I have a friend that lives in Pennsylvania and he agrees to take a weekend stroll with his wife and have a look see. He tells me he thinks it has been closed for some time. Now I am really worried. The BBB gives him an "F" as the rash of complaints all have been "Unanswered" and not responded to. I see a few people on the NET saying they had to get local government offices involved to get a refund. I have seen this before with other once reputable outfits and I think he is in over his head and may have just given up or he is ill. So, I guess I kiss my almost $4,000 goodby. Don't know what else to think when he says they are shipping 2 orders a week out of 80 orders starting early 2024. So, if one does the math then all orders would have been shipped. I am retired now but had run to medium sized businesses and always delivered on time and kept on schedule. I also helped out part time on Saturdays in two different gun shops that had done custom gunsmithing. One made $4,000 1911's. So, I kind of know how things work. Very concerned at this point!

02-24-2024, 06:08 PM	#1
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 750 Thanks: 2,156 Thanked 629 Times in 339 Posts	Yes, me too !!! I ordered one at the same time you did. They posted details on the forum and then took it down a few weeks later. They call it the P2020 on their web site. Eugene has never replied to any of my emails. So, I call them every few months. Yesterday, they told me that they only got 10 orders for the pistols. They assured me that they will contact buyers to review their shipping instructions and FFL address details, when the guns are ready. I was also told they are test firing 7 pistols this week. Still no ETA. Meanwhile, I have also bought some spare luger parts from them. And, I have to admit, we all were forewarned that he was notoriously slow with his restoration work and not to expect anything soon. I also know that the Pandemic caused delays with new equipment. I'm not making excuses for them. I have faith and I very much support his craftsmanship. I always considered my order as an investment to help keep them in business, because we really do need some active luger gunsmiths. The other US luger manufactures here in the states have been a big disappointment.

10-29-2024, 10:14 PM	#5
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 672 Thanks: 371 Thanked 1,202 Times in 407 Posts	OOF. Not good. You would think he would at least talk to his customers. Rick at SMG only asked for 100 bucks to hold my place in line for the FG42, (about 2 1/2 year delivery, if I remember correctly),and asked for payment when he was about 30 days out from shipping. Sent me a photo of a line of guns ready to go out shortly before I got mine. He would periodically update me on the progress of getting materials and building the guns. Eugene, it seems, is pretty much the opposite. Too bad, I was impressed with his restoration work.