New to Luger Questions!

Sam90230 · 11-18-2020, 07:56 PM

I cannot for the life of me figure the story behind this Luger. There is a DWM marking on top of the firearm, and most of the numbers match. The barrel is marked '1916', but appears to have Erfurt markings. Can someone try to decipher this please?
Under the barrel has the serial number '1168', with a '42' and '8,82' for the bore diameter.
I am brand new to Lugers and never saw myself being into them! Glad to be here!

mrerick · 11-18-2020, 08:22 PM

The barrel was probably replaced.

Spare armorer's parts produced by Mauser had the "42" number in small 2mm to 4mm digits.

The HZa mark is from a rework depot during the later Nazi era.

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Doubs · 11-18-2020, 08:25 PM

The receiver was made by Erfurt in 1916 and the pistol was later repaired by an army repair facility at Ingolstadt during the Nazi era as evidenced by the Eagle over HZaJT3.

The "42" on the barrel means it's a Mauser replacement barrel. The DWM on the toggle train shows that it's a replacement for the original Erfurt toggle train although without picture evidence, the toggle train could be made up of parts from other than just DWM.

Sam90230 · 11-18-2020, 08:43 PM

If the barrel was replaced (which I do believe is true) why does it say 1916 on it?

Ron Wood · 11-18-2020, 11:18 PM

The 1916 is on the receiver. The replacement barrel screws into the receiver.
Ron

Sam90230 · 11-19-2020, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

The 1916 is on the receiver. The replacement barrel screws into the receiver.
Ron

Wow! I never knew Lugers could have their barrels removed. I thought the slide assembly was all one solid piece (for lack of a better term)

Heinz · 11-19-2020, 11:18 AM

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Mac Cat · 11-19-2020, 01:25 PM

Nice photo ! Please share a few more like that.

11-18-2020, 07:56 PM	#1
Sam90230 New User Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 3 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	New to Luger Questions! I cannot for the life of me figure the story behind this Luger. There is a DWM marking on top of the firearm, and most of the numbers match. The barrel is marked '1916', but appears to have Erfurt markings. Can someone try to decipher this please? Under the barrel has the serial number '1168', with a '42' and '8,82' for the bore diameter. I am brand new to Lugers and never saw myself being into them! Glad to be here! Attached Thumbnails

11-18-2020, 08:22 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	The barrel was probably replaced. Spare armorer's parts produced by Mauser had the "42" number in small 2mm to 4mm digits. The HZa mark is from a rework depot during the later Nazi era. Check out our forum FAQ PDF document. It's free to download. Just follow the FAQ link at the the top of the page. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-18-2020, 11:18 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	The 1916 is on the receiver. The replacement barrel screws into the receiver. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,736 Thanks: 819 Thanked 1,769 Times in 586 Posts	The receiver was made by Erfurt in 1916 and the pistol was later repaired by an army repair facility at Ingolstadt during the Nazi era as evidenced by the Eagle over HZaJT3. The "42" on the barrel means it's a Mauser replacement barrel. The DWM on the toggle train shows that it's a replacement for the original Erfurt toggle train although without picture evidence, the toggle train could be made up of parts from other than just DWM.

11-18-2020, 08:43 PM	#4
Sam90230 New User Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 3 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post	If the barrel was replaced (which I do believe is true) why does it say 1916 on it?

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Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 411 Times in 180 Posts	There is a lot of information available on thisform. Check the FAQ section that has a button on the top banner. Lots of information there.

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Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 751 Thanks: 2,158 Thanked 630 Times in 340 Posts	Nice photo ! Please share a few more like that.