professional information please/ Navy Luger 1906 commercial

CASTELLANO · 03-27-2020, 02:31 PM

please

I request an expert opinion

on this luger, which has a handle lock (type 1906)

but it has a short frame

I think it's commercial ... his number is 36XXX

what do you think?

can it be have a piece of great value ???

oddly matched, safety handle with short frame.

I cannot insert an image ... I can send images by e-mail ... tell me an e-mail by private message, I send the images and I authorize you to put them in this message.

Thank you

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posted pictures - ebt

mrerick · 03-27-2020, 06:18 PM

Navy marked Lugers are renowned for being faked. You'll need to provide sharp well lit photos (shaded natural light, camera that can focus) including closeups of markings.

Our FAQ document may be useful.

Perhaps one of the Navy experts can help with your photos. You should be able to upload pictures using the advanced version of the editor. Just size them to about 1024 pixels on the longest axis.

Edward Tinker · 03-28-2020, 01:48 AM

posted pictures

Ed

CASTELLANO · 03-28-2020, 02:01 AM

Thank you very much for placing the photographs

It is absolutely original, it has no parts replaced ... I have enough experience in detecting tampering.

Excuse me for not putting a full number image in front of the frame, and under the barrel (it is for privacy requested by the owner)
But they are original, same typeface, ect …

Could it be a commercial Navy exported to Uruguay?

look
https://www.morphyauctions.com/james...h-stock-36157/

https://www.collectorebooks.com/jame...uger/36157.htm

Norme · 03-28-2020, 06:54 AM

Hi Antonio,
Welcome to the forum! I think you're right, it sure looks like a Uruguayan contract gun or one produced at about the same time. This link might be of interest.
https://luger.gunboards.com/showthre...t=uruguay+navy
Regards, Norm

mrerick · 03-28-2020, 06:36 PM

I'm not a Navy expert.

Why is there a Crown/B Crown/V on the rear toggle/sight?

Were those Uruguay acceptance markings; Imperial German acceptance markings on parts that were diverted to a commercial contract; or something else?

Is it numbered in the commercial pattern (digits on bottom of trigger plate, etc...)?

Thanks for posting an interesting Luger.

DonVoigt · 03-28-2020, 08:01 PM

Marc,
I think they are C/B and a worn C/U (not V); and are commercial German proofs not Imperial military.

CASTELLANO · 03-29-2020, 04:04 AM

new images on the way

commercial German proofs

B G U ….. 118,35

German commercial barrel proof. Found (with proof 3) on some 9 m/m 1902 thru 1908.

definitely

It is a DWM 1906 URUGUAY NAVY COMMERCIAL LUGER

more pictures - ebt

03-27-2020, 02:31 PM	#1
CASTELLANO User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: MADRID / SPAIN Posts: 70 Thanks: 10 Thanked 265 Times in 44 Posts	professional information please/ Navy Luger 1906 commercial please I request an expert opinion on this luger, which has a handle lock (type 1906) but it has a short frame I think it's commercial ... his number is 36XXX what do you think? can it be have a piece of great value ??? oddly matched, safety handle with short frame. I cannot insert an image ... I can send images by e-mail ... tell me an e-mail by private message, I send the images and I authorize you to put them in this message. Thank you __________ posted pictures - ebt Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2020, 06:18 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Navy marked Lugers are renowned for being faked. You'll need to provide sharp well lit photos (shaded natural light, camera that can focus) including closeups of markings. Our FAQ document may be useful. Perhaps one of the Navy experts can help with your photos. You should be able to upload pictures using the advanced version of the editor. Just size them to about 1024 pixels on the longest axis. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

03-28-2020, 01:48 AM	#3
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03-28-2020, 02:01 AM	#4
CASTELLANO User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: MADRID / SPAIN Posts: 70 Thanks: 10 Thanked 265 Times in 44 Posts	Thank you very much for placing the photographs It is absolutely original, it has no parts replaced ... I have enough experience in detecting tampering. Excuse me for not putting a full number image in front of the frame, and under the barrel (it is for privacy requested by the owner) But they are original, same typeface, ect … Could it be a commercial Navy exported to Uruguay? look https://www.morphyauctions.com/james...h-stock-36157/ https://www.collectorebooks.com/jame...uger/36157.htm Last edited by CASTELLANO; 03-28-2020 at 06:04 AM.

03-28-2020, 06:36 PM	#6
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	I'm not a Navy expert. Why is there a Crown/B Crown/V on the rear toggle/sight? Were those Uruguay acceptance markings; Imperial German acceptance markings on parts that were diverted to a commercial contract; or something else? Is it numbered in the commercial pattern (digits on bottom of trigger plate, etc...)? Thanks for posting an interesting Luger. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

03-28-2020, 06:54 AM	#5
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Antonio, Welcome to the forum! I think you're right, it sure looks like a Uruguayan contract gun or one produced at about the same time. This link might be of interest. https://luger.gunboards.com/showthre...t=uruguay+navy Regards, Norm

03-28-2020, 08:01 PM	#7
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	Marc, I think they are C/B and a worn C/U (not V); and are commercial German proofs not Imperial military. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

03-29-2020, 04:04 AM	#8
CASTELLANO User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: MADRID / SPAIN Posts: 70 Thanks: 10 Thanked 265 Times in 44 Posts	new images on the way commercial German proofs B G U ….. 118,35 German commercial barrel proof. Found (with proof 3) on some 9 m/m 1902 thru 1908. definitely It is a DWM 1906 URUGUAY NAVY COMMERCIAL LUGER more pictures - ebt Attached Thumbnails