Can someone help?

dctree · 02-01-2017, 02:32 PM

Hi, I have had a look through the forum but hoping someone can help.
I have two Luger magazines and wondered if it is possible to date them from the numbers/markings on the bottom?
Both have Aluminium bottoms.
one has 7139 over m over + over waffenamt 63
other has 9570 over t over waffenamt 63
I can't find any other markings on the magazine apart from on the base. I can try to post some pictures if it would help.
Thanks in advance, David.

Eugen · 02-01-2017, 02:37 PM

Detailed photos, particularly of any markings, are almost requisite. Post such photos and your questions will be answered by all the knowledgeable folks here.

dctree · 02-01-2017, 02:52 PM

Thanks, I hope this works.

dctree · 02-01-2017, 02:56 PM

Phew. Now for the other one.

Norme · 02-01-2017, 03:21 PM

Hi David,
Welcome to the forum! Your magazines are Army Type 2, and the SE/63 (Stick Eagle/63) inspection marks date them to 1938.
Regards, Norm

dctree · 02-01-2017, 04:03 PM

Can I ask for an idea of how much they are worth? Thanks again. David

mrerick · 02-01-2017, 04:21 PM

Typically $100 to $125 when in top condition.

guns3545 · 02-01-2017, 04:23 PM

David,

Welcome to the Forum. And welcome to the lack of absolute certainty when it comes to collecting P.08s.

As previously mentioned, pictures are important. Good pictures are critical in order to make definitive statements.

So, let's jump in.

First, I am not totally sure that the m-suffix magazine is SE63. The photo lacks definition but it may be a SE83 made late in 1938. Only close examination or a really good photo can tell which it is. The SE83 inspector was around for about a year. Inspector 63 with various cartouches was around from 1935 to 1939.

The t-suffix magazine is definitely a S63, in fact, the large number variation. This magazine was shipped with a 1939 code 42 pistol in approximately May 1939.

Hope this helps.

John

dctree · 02-02-2017, 02:15 PM

Thanks John. Here is another picture, looks like 83.

guns3545 · 02-02-2017, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dctree

Thanks John. Here is another picture, looks like 83.

David,

Yep!! Sure is.

While not particularly rare, Inspector 83 was not around for a long time so you do not see many of them. But.. to anyone who owns an SE83 inspected gun it is more period correct than a SE63.

John

Geo99 · 02-03-2017, 02:19 AM

They might be worth a lot more than $125 to the right buyer, say someone who owns the matching numbered gun. The only way to know for sure is to put them up for sale.

- Geo

sheepherder · 02-03-2017, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guns3545

Welcome to the Forum. And welcome to the lack of absolute certainty when it comes to collecting P.08s.

That statement itself should be a 'sticky'.

02-01-2017, 02:32 PM	#1
dctree User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 5 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Can someone help? Hi, I have had a look through the forum but hoping someone can help. I have two Luger magazines and wondered if it is possible to date them from the numbers/markings on the bottom? Both have Aluminium bottoms. one has 7139 over m over + over waffenamt 63 other has 9570 over t over waffenamt 63 I can't find any other markings on the magazine apart from on the base. I can try to post some pictures if it would help. Thanks in advance, David.

02-01-2017, 02:37 PM	#2
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 797 Thanks: 403 Thanked 640 Times in 339 Posts	Detailed photos, particularly of any markings, are almost requisite. Post such photos and your questions will be answered by all the knowledgeable folks here. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

02-01-2017, 02:52 PM	#3
dctree User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 5 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks, I hope this works. Attached Thumbnails

02-01-2017, 02:56 PM	#4
dctree User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 5 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Phew. Now for the other one. Attached Thumbnails

02-01-2017, 04:21 PM	#7
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Typically $100 to $125 when in top condition. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

02-01-2017, 03:21 PM	#5
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi David, Welcome to the forum! Your magazines are Army Type 2, and the SE/63 (Stick Eagle/63) inspection marks date them to 1938. Regards, Norm

02-01-2017, 04:03 PM	#6
dctree User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 5 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Can I ask for an idea of how much they are worth? Thanks again. David

02-01-2017, 04:23 PM	#8
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 438 Thanks: 661 Thanked 493 Times in 219 Posts	David, Welcome to the Forum. And welcome to the lack of absolute certainty when it comes to collecting P.08s. As previously mentioned, pictures are important. Good pictures are critical in order to make definitive statements. So, let's jump in. First, I am not totally sure that the m-suffix magazine is SE63. The photo lacks definition but it may be a SE83 made late in 1938. Only close examination or a really good photo can tell which it is. The SE83 inspector was around for about a year. Inspector 63 with various cartouches was around from 1935 to 1939. The t-suffix magazine is definitely a S63, in fact, the large number variation. This magazine was shipped with a 1939 code 42 pistol in approximately May 1939. Hope this helps. John

02-02-2017, 02:15 PM	#9
dctree User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 5 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks John. Here is another picture, looks like 83. Attached Thumbnails

02-03-2017, 02:19 AM	#11
Geo99 User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whidbey Island WA Posts: 400 Thanks: 102 Thanked 127 Times in 75 Posts	They might be worth a lot more than $125 to the right buyer, say someone who owns the matching numbered gun. The only way to know for sure is to put them up for sale. - Geo __________________ "Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie, until you can find a rock." - Will Rogers