NYS Pistol Permit Recertification

[mrerick]

It's actually an interesting issue. The mechanics of the system work against it's integrity.

When you want a handgun, you go to the Sheriff. Upon request, at $5 each, Sheriffs issue an unlimited number of permits which are good for five years. They perform a background check when the permits are applied for. Dealers take the permit, and do not perform another background check at the time of sale. The sheriff offices have no resources available for tracking issued permits (after all, their agencies are there to deal with crime and criminals, not law abiding citizens - right?)...

Thus, someone can get a handful of permits, become prohibited the next day, and still hold valid permits for up to 5 years. We added a poison pill to a gun law a few years ago to require a study on the number of issued permits in felon or prohibited person's hands. After a couple of man years of study effort, they found 5,255 permits in the hands of prohibited people. Here's the study:

http://grnc.org/documents/NCSA-PPP-R...2014-FINAL.pdf

The permits cost citizens $5 each, but the sheriff departments spend up to $75 each to process them. That extra cost runs close to $10 million every year, the bill footed by taxpayers.

So, we have a system that leaks permits into prohibited people, sheriffs that actively support it because of the value of "background checks" (including participation in Bloomberg paid advertising opposing us the last time we tried to eliminate the system) and a system that interferes with lawful acquisition of firearms.

The sick thing here is that by just relying on the FBI NICS system at time of purchase, the public would be better served...

So, New Yorkers, get ready for similar corruption in implementation of the SAFE act provisions...

What part of these ineffective infringements on the Second Amendment don't violate the constitution?

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by mrerick

So, New Yorkers, get ready for similar corruption in implementation of the SAFE act provisions...

What part of these ineffective infringements on the Second Amendment don't violate the constitution?

Technically, all of it except the 7-round restriction to the number loaded into a mag has so far withstood adjudication. The SAFE act initially conflicted with the laws allowing LEO's to load more, and use mags of higher than 10 capacity, but that was "fixed." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NY_SAF...gal_challenges

The SAFE Act https://safeact.ny.gov/

The 5-year validity of NC's setup is indeed ridiculous if it is assessed as to effectiveness. NY's required checks--place and time of sale/trandfer, every time--would be more up-to-date as far as containing someone's disqualifying aspects. But they've also concocted the situation of background checks for ammo sales, which is at the very least a bureaucratic nightmare and a huge expense for retailers. This provision remains unimplemented. We show our permits at purchase, and at this point, and since permits are not required for long guns, I don't know how long gun ammo is handled. Also currently, purchases from out-of-state suppliers and auctions needs to be picked up to a dealer you've had them ship to, after the copy of his FFL is forwarded to them. Ignorance abounds in this area, and several auction houses have subsequently shipped directly to me, nonetheless.