Fun pistol, and the resemblance is..well..

[John Sabato]

Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu... Bill Ruger took the concept to the next and appropriate level. The Nambu has always looked like it was sent to production while still in the prototype stage to me.... just my not so humble opinion...

[Zorba]

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu...

John has a secret back room that nobody is allowed into except him. Its full of Arisakas and Nambus! I have it on good authority that the T-94 is a particular favorite of his...

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by Zorba

John has a secret back room that nobody is allowed into except him. Its full of Arisakas and Nambus! I have it on good authority that the T-94 is a particular favorite of his...

Zorba,

I bet there is a tape out there, from 10 or so years ago, on with John speaks about Japanese firearms in a lustful way.

Rumor has it, that the Washington Post has just now started looking for it, as, of late, they have been very preoccupied finding the Trump tape.

Sieger

[Zorba]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Zorba,

I bet there is a tape out there, from 10 or so years ago, on with John speaks about Japanese firearms in a lustful way.

Rumor has it, that the Washington Post has just now started looking for it, as, of late, they have been very preoccupied finding the Trump tape.

Sieger

Well, since they can't find Hillary's emails...

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by Zorba

Well, since they can't find Hillary's emails...

Zorba,

A liberal newspaper wouldn't be looking for her emails, but maybe the Washington Times can find them.

Putin has them all anyway, as he has been reading her correspondence, every night, for years.

Maybe Snowden found them for him!


Sieger

[Zorba]

Snort!

[rolandtg]

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu... Bill Ruger took the concept to the next and appropriate level. The Nambu has always looked like it was sent to production while still in the prototype stage to me.... just my not so humble opinion...

Well I certainly agree with that!

But imagine an 8mm Ruger MKII. Wouldn't that be something!

As far as the Type 94 there must have been bribery involved with getting that into production.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by rolandtg

But imagine an 8mm Ruger MKII. Wouldn't that be something!

Well, here's something close...

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu... Bill Ruger took the concept to the next and appropriate level. The Nambu has always looked like it was sent to production while still in the prototype stage to me.... just my not so humble opinion...

John,

Looking at a T-14 Nambu, we see a C-96 Mauser top and locking system (modified yes) and a Luger bottom and magazine.

Notwithstanding the late war production "junk", I prefer the Nambu system to the toggle system of our beloved Luger. Why? Because it is not so ammo sensitive, yet, it is still as highly accurate.

Just my experienced opinion. Others, of course, may not agree with me.

Sieger

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by Sieger

John,

Looking at a T-14 Nambu, we see a C-96 Mauser top and locking system (modified yes) and a Luger bottom and magazine.

Notwithstanding the late war production "junk", I prefer the Nambu system to the toggle system of our beloved Luger. Why? Because it is not so ammo sensitive, yet, it is still as highly accurate.

Just my experienced opinion. Others, of course, may not agree with me.

Sieger

The T 14 late war "finish" may have deteriorated, but the pistols are not "junk", they work as intended, JMHO.

Folks frequently confuse "appearance" with "quality of purpose".

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

The T 14 late war "finish" may have deteriorated, but the pistols are not "junk", they work as intended, JMHO.

Folks frequently confuse "appearance" with "quality of purpose".

Don,

Yes, I have three "Late War Junkers" and they do, indeed, work.

However, they lack the class of the beautifuly finished "Pre Wars".

Compare a 1945 Nambu's finish to a 1945 P-38's finish and you will note a real difference.

Yes, Hitler seems to have made the "quality of purpose" mistake relative to the Russian weapons. For instance, my Soviet Mosin Sniper rifle looks like hell, but will shoot less than 1/2 inch, 100 yard groups, all day!!!

Sieger

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Don,

Yes, I have three "Late War Junkers" and they do, indeed, work.

However, they lack the class of the beautifuly finished "Pre Wars".

Compare a 1945 Nambu's finish to a 1945 P-38's finish and you will note a real difference.

Yes, Hitler seems to have made the "quality of purpose" mistake relative to the Russian weapons. For instance, my Soviet Mosin Sniper rifle looks like hell, but will shoot less than 1/2 inch, 100 yard groups, all day!!!

Sieger

What has the "appearance" to do with your statement that they "work"?

The implication was that there was/is something wrong with late war pistols- other than aesthetics- they are identical to pretty ones.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

What has the "appearance" to do with your statement that they "work"?

The implication was that there was/is something wrong with late war pistols- other than aesthetics- they are identical to pretty ones.

Don

In my 60 years of life, Ive found that perception often leads reality. It may not be logical, but more often than not, it is true.

Sieger

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Don

In my 60 years of life, Ive found that perception often leads reality. It may not be logical, but more often than not, it is true.

Sieger

Please explain what this has to do with the finish of a late war T 14;
It has been 70 years since they were made- nothing to Lead?

But I may be missing the point. But I have done that more than once in my 68 years!

[Zorba]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

The T 14 late war "finish" may have deteriorated, but the pistols are not "junk", they work as intended, JMHO.

Folks frequently confuse "appearance" with "quality of purpose".

Mine's a "17", it isn't a Walther for sure, but it isn't bad looking. Sweet shooting pistol, very accurate. Of course it should be accurate at $1/rd!!

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by Zorba

Mine's a "17", it isn't a Walther for sure, but it isn't bad looking. Sweet shooting pistol, very accurate. Of course it should be accurate at $1/rd!!

If you'd roll your own it would be a lot cheaper.

I bet Sieger will tell you the same.

[Zorba]

Originally Posted by kurusu

If you'd roll your own it would be a lot cheaper.

I bet Sieger will tell you the same.

Yea, it would. And certainly never say never. But I'm not there yet.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Zorba

Yea, it would. And certainly never say never. But I'm not there yet.

I'm posting a cost thread for an absolute newbie for reloading 30 Luger. It's bare minimum but maybe it'll convince you...