Fun pistol, and the resemblance is..well..

Rich T · 10-08-2016, 04:40 PM

The Ruger .22 MK series. Just picked up a III a couple months ago. What a fun pistol! Altho dis/re-assembly can be “problematic”. I damaged it the SECOND time, and brought back to selling agent. Sent to Ruger, repaired and back again..not ONE RED CENT. Excellent service!

DonVoigt · 10-08-2016, 05:14 PM

Great gun and a lot of fun!

A word of caution, they go together quite easily- IF they are done correctly; if it
feels like you are "forcing" something- Don't!

Because you are.

tomaustin · 10-08-2016, 09:57 PM

you will learn some new cuss words cleaning that sucker.....there is a right way and all others are WRONG.......some good videos on the net....i have a I, II, and III...a really nice invention...good weapons........and really cheap to shoot and practice your marksmanship....

sheepherder · 10-08-2016, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich T

Sent to Ruger, repaired and back again..not ONE RED CENT. Excellent service!

You are fortunate. Many years ago, I had a stainless Ruger .44 magnum Super Blackhawk that had an obviously offcenter front sight. They're soldered on, so I sent it in for service. They did not charge for service but I had to pay shipping & FFL charges both ways. And when I got it back, it was still off center.

Zorba · 10-09-2016, 02:14 AM

Practice and patience will teach you the "right way" - but you'll also come up with your own little tricks. I can now re-assemble mine without having to refer to the Internet - but it wasn't always that simple!

If the Mk IV had been available at the time I bought my III, I would have bought the IV and not looked back - but now that I know how to deal with the III, there's no particular reason I'd want a IV over it.

Old Bill got the Nambu styling pretty well!

Eugen · 10-09-2016, 09:12 AM

Those Luger looking Ruger Marks look great, and Rich yours is one of the best looking models. Congrats! With practice the reassembly process will get easier. I have a Mark III stainless competition target. I had to deburr and polish the frame and parts. Doing that and with about 1k rounds, it cycled and shot and reassembled much, much better. They are great 22s.

The Mark IV seems to be a wonderful improvement over the earlier MKs, since they made cleaning so much more convenient.

Olle · 10-09-2016, 09:38 AM

That Mk IV looks intriguing. I have a Mk II and I absolutely love it, but the take down/reassembly method definitely leaves room for improvement. They are extremely good pistols though, very accurate, reliable and easy to shoot.

rhuff · 10-09-2016, 01:28 PM

I have held off buying one of the Mark lll guns because of the breakdown/assembly process. A good shooting buddy has one, and it really rings his tail when he has to clean it.....so he doesn't shoot it much anymore.

I have been reading about the Mark lV, and it looks real promising. I hear nothing but good things about the early Mark model .22cal pistols......except for disassembly/reassembly. Ruger may well have a real winner here.

ithacaartist · 10-09-2016, 03:07 PM

I just returned from a Ruger .22 rim-fire challenge match this A.M., in which I used my 70s vintage Ruger Standard, which is basically a Mark I. If I need a reliable, accurate, easy-to-shoot .22 auto pistol, this is the one. Its finish isn't the greatest, but this aspect allowed me to pick it up from an auction for only $150 a couple of years ago. Its no-frills operation--no hold-open, and bottom-mounted mag release are a little annoying, but the sweet shooting makes up for that. I'll be buying and installing an extended mag release, so that will eliminate half of my gripes!

mrerick · 10-09-2016, 05:47 PM

IIRC, the original Ruger "Mark" was the "Standard" .22 pistol was their first product, and Bill Ruger did overtly design the grip and grip angle to mimic the (then popular) (corrected below... to Nambu) Luger.

There is more detail in a great book, Bill Ruger and his Guns

I bought and read the book, and later ended up buying stock in the company (that has done quite well)...

My first pistol was a Mark I, also purchased in the 1970's...

spacecoast · 10-10-2016, 10:38 AM

The Rugers don't need to be disassembled for cleaning nearly as often as they usually are. Just wipe out the chamber and bolt cycling area with a Hoppe's-soaked Q-tip (and the barrel if you wish) and you can go thousands of rounds without having to go further.

alanint · 10-10-2016, 11:02 AM

They are even fun when they are "vewy,vewy quiet"!

alanint · 10-10-2016, 11:07 AM

There is a trick to reassembling the Mk2s. Once you learn it they go back together with ease. There should be a YouTube primer on this method.

Zorba · 10-10-2016, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick

IIRC, the original Ruger "Mark" was the "Standard" .22 pistol was their first product, and Bill Ruger did overtly design the grip and grip angle to mimic the (then popular) Luger.

Not quite: It was actually derived from the Nambu.

rhuff · 10-10-2016, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacecoast

The Rugers don't need to be disassembled for cleaning nearly as often as they usually are. Just wipe out the chamber and bolt cycling area with a Hoppe's-soaked Q-tip (and the barrel if you wish) and you can go thousands of rounds without having to go further.

I have been switching over to this routine in most of my semi-auto pistols recently. For years and years I shot a gun.....I cleaned said gun the same/next day. I am beginning to believe that I was a bit too OCD in this matter.

spacecoast · 10-10-2016, 04:01 PM

I have been using the "light" cleaning method with my 1958 Hi-Standard Supermatic Trophy pistol for Bullseye matches for quite some time now. It's actually much more important (for that gun) that the magazines be clean for reliable operation, when they start getting a crud buildup you will get misfeeds, therefore I clean them carefully with a long wood-handled cotton swab after every match. The Hi-Standards have no feed ramp so the rounds have to be angled perfectly coming out of the magazine to hit the chamber cleanly.

22 short · 10-10-2016, 04:49 PM

I have 2 of these and have never taken them apart, I use a bore snake to clean the bore and I take the grips off and spray with gun scrubber, dry and light lube never had a problem and I have thousands of rounds through them,but I only shoot standard vel ammo

sheepherder · 10-10-2016, 07:02 PM

I have the 4" bbl stainless MkII, and the only point of contention I have is the lever in the backstrap...I now use an old rifle cartridge case to pry that booger out with...

John Sabato · 10-11-2016, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorba

Not quite: It was actually derived from the Nambu.

DavidJayUden · 10-11-2016, 02:23 PM

You guys that dread disassembling and reassembling a Ruger obviously need a broomhandle Mauser in your lives...

10-08-2016, 04:40 PM	#1
Rich T User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oakland County, MI Posts: 33 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Fun pistol, and the resemblance is..well.. The Ruger .22 MK series. Just picked up a III a couple months ago. What a fun pistol! Altho dis/re-assembly can be “problematic”. I damaged it the SECOND time, and brought back to selling agent. Sent to Ruger, repaired and back again..not ONE RED CENT. Excellent service! Attached Images

10-08-2016, 05:14 PM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,678 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	Great gun and a lot of fun! A word of caution, they go together quite easily- IF they are done correctly; if it feels like you are "forcing" something- Don't! Because you are. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 768 Thanks: 372 Thanked 603 Times in 320 Posts	Those Luger looking Ruger Marks look great, and Rich yours is one of the best looking models. Congrats! With practice the reassembly process will get easier. I have a Mark III stainless competition target. I had to deburr and polish the frame and parts. Doing that and with about 1k rounds, it cycled and shot and reassembled much, much better. They are great 22s. The Mark IV seems to be a wonderful improvement over the earlier MKs, since they made cleaning so much more convenient. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

10-09-2016, 09:38 AM	#7
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 663 Times in 318 Posts	That Mk IV looks intriguing. I have a Mk II and I absolutely love it, but the take down/reassembly method definitely leaves room for improvement. They are extremely good pistols though, very accurate, reliable and easy to shoot. __________________ Deer Hollow Enterprises, LLC Gun repair and restoration

10-09-2016, 03:07 PM	#9
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,290 Thanks: 7,055 Thanked 2,483 Times in 1,324 Posts	I just returned from a Ruger .22 rim-fire challenge match this A.M., in which I used my 70s vintage Ruger Standard, which is basically a Mark I. If I need a reliable, accurate, easy-to-shoot .22 auto pistol, this is the one. Its finish isn't the greatest, but this aspect allowed me to pick it up from an auction for only $150 a couple of years ago. Its no-frills operation--no hold-open, and bottom-mounted mag release are a little annoying, but the sweet shooting makes up for that. I'll be buying and installing an extended mag release, so that will eliminate half of my gripes! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

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tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	you will learn some new cuss words cleaning that sucker.....there is a right way and all others are WRONG.......some good videos on the net....i have a I, II, and III...a really nice invention...good weapons........and really cheap to shoot and practice your marksmanship....

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Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 951 Thanks: 776 Thanked 526 Times in 289 Posts	Practice and patience will teach you the "right way" - but you'll also come up with your own little tricks. I can now re-assemble mine without having to refer to the Internet - but it wasn't always that simple! If the Mk IV had been available at the time I bought my III, I would have bought the IV and not looked back - but now that I know how to deal with the III, there's no particular reason I'd want a IV over it. Old Bill got the Nambu styling pretty well!

10-09-2016, 01:28 PM	#8
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,274 Thanks: 2,693 Thanked 960 Times in 706 Posts	I have held off buying one of the Mark lll guns because of the breakdown/assembly process. A good shooting buddy has one, and it really rings his tail when he has to clean it.....so he doesn't shoot it much anymore. I have been reading about the Mark lV, and it looks real promising. I hear nothing but good things about the early Mark model .22cal pistols......except for disassembly/reassembly. Ruger may well have a real winner here.

10-09-2016, 05:47 PM	#10
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	IIRC, the original Ruger "Mark" was the "Standard" .22 pistol was their first product, and Bill Ruger did overtly design the grip and grip angle to mimic the (then popular) (corrected below... to Nambu) Luger. There is more detail in a great book, Bill Ruger and his Guns I bought and read the book, and later ended up buying stock in the company (that has done quite well)... My first pistol was a Mark I, also purchased in the 1970's... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war. Last edited by mrerick; 10-11-2016 at 03:29 PM.

10-10-2016, 10:38 AM	#11
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	The Rugers don't need to be disassembled for cleaning nearly as often as they usually are. Just wipe out the chamber and bolt cycling area with a Hoppe's-soaked Q-tip (and the barrel if you wish) and you can go thousands of rounds without having to go further.

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	They are even fun when they are "vewy,vewy quiet"! Attached Thumbnails

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	There is a trick to reassembling the Mk2s. Once you learn it they go back together with ease. There should be a YouTube primer on this method.

10-10-2016, 04:01 PM	#16
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	I have been using the "light" cleaning method with my 1958 Hi-Standard Supermatic Trophy pistol for Bullseye matches for quite some time now. It's actually much more important (for that gun) that the magazines be clean for reliable operation, when they start getting a crud buildup you will get misfeeds, therefore I clean them carefully with a long wood-handled cotton swab after every match. The Hi-Standards have no feed ramp so the rounds have to be angled perfectly coming out of the magazine to hit the chamber cleanly.

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22 short User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 15 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	I have 2 of these and have never taken them apart, I use a bore snake to clean the bore and I take the grips off and spray with gun scrubber, dry and light lube never had a problem and I have thousands of rounds through them,but I only shoot standard vel ammo

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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,440 Times in 2,328 Posts	I have the 4" bbl stainless MkII, and the only point of contention I have is the lever in the backstrap...I now use an old rifle cartridge case to pry that booger out with... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

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DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	You guys that dread disassembling and reassembling a Ruger obviously need a broomhandle Mauser in your lives...