Which parts to replace ?

ZX-10R · 10-27-2013, 02:13 PM

Hello Guys,

Every once in a while I just have to shoot my matching '36 S/42.
Not much ( 10 to 15 rounds of S&B Subsonic) and not very often, about 10 times per year.
Of course I do not wish to damage any numbered parts, so I would like to replace some parts for new ones.
So my question is ; which parts would you replace for shooting a matching numbered pistol ? And which parts are most likely to fail or break whilst shooting ?

I know I shouldn't shoot it, i've tried to make it a safequeen, but I just can't.....

wlyon · 10-27-2013, 03:03 PM

For a start, firing pin ,ejector, extractor. Bill

rhuff · 10-27-2013, 04:44 PM

Maybe even a different breachblock if possible. What about the firing pin spring retainer.....I broke one of those shooting my DWM??

ZX-10R · 10-29-2013, 08:30 PM

Thank you gentlemen, I will replace the mentioned parts.

Ron Wood · 10-29-2013, 09:28 PM

Just for the sake of being an old grump...I woud opt for replacing the gun with a shooter. It probably is a lot easier than trying to round up the various parts and may be even a little less expensive.

Edward Tinker · 10-29-2013, 11:12 PM

If you change the above parts, then leave them, it will appear mismatched if showing off

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And to swap the breachblock alone is a pain, so you'd want to do an entire toggle. Thus a shooter would be cheaper.

rhuff · 10-30-2013, 03:46 PM

Of course a complete toggle train would be the "hot setup" as far a ease of change out and safety to your original parts....once it was fitted properly to your upper. I see them for sale occasionally, and if you don't mind a chrome plated one, or pitted/reblued one, the price can be pretty reasonable.

You can never go wrong in just acquiring another Luger for shooting as suggested above.

Sergio Natali · 10-31-2013, 03:02 AM

Probably the parts most prone to break are the firing pin and the ejector, and I agree completeely with Ron, I don't want to sound like the usual "old grump" either BUT I would opt for replacing the gun with a "shooter".
Safe shooting.

ZX-10R · 10-31-2013, 05:08 AM

Thanks for al the help, guys,

Yes, a shooter would be nice, but unfortunately local gunlaws forbid me to own more than 5 firearms.
I already own 4 more, which I need every one of them for hunting and match shooting.
So I'll replace the mentioned parts and shoot it very very occasionally , just a few subsonic rounds.

Lugerdoc · 10-31-2013, 09:40 AM

ZX, I have most of the desired orig or new repro parts {less expensive) in stock, Tom

ZX-10R · 11-17-2013, 09:54 AM

Again, thank you for all your help. After a long thought i've decided not to shoot the gun anymore.
Just can't stand the thought of breaking something on this piece of history, so I let her rest in my safe, nicely covered in Rennaissance Wax.

Damn.....I'm turning into an old grump...

Dwight Gruber · 11-17-2013, 10:35 AM

Do a forum search for "Broken Parts Survey."

--Dwight

sheepherder · 11-17-2013, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhuff

Maybe even...the firing pin spring retainer.....I broke one of those shooting my DWM??

+ 1

My 1900AE came with a broken firing spring retainer...Not evident until a detailed stripping...Cycled & fired OK...

At least take it apart and check...

10-27-2013, 02:13 PM	#1
ZX-10R User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 26 Thanks: 5 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Which parts to replace ? Hello Guys, Every once in a while I just have to shoot my matching '36 S/42. Not much ( 10 to 15 rounds of S&B Subsonic) and not very often, about 10 times per year. Of course I do not wish to damage any numbered parts, so I would like to replace some parts for new ones. So my question is ; which parts would you replace for shooting a matching numbered pistol ? And which parts are most likely to fail or break whilst shooting ? I know I shouldn't shoot it, i've tried to make it a safequeen, but I just can't.....

10-27-2013, 03:03 PM	#2
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,655 Thanks: 3,212 Thanked 2,618 Times in 971 Posts	For a start, firing pin ,ejector, extractor. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

10-29-2013, 09:28 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,256 Times in 1,724 Posts	Just for the sake of being an old grump...I woud opt for replacing the gun with a shooter. It probably is a lot easier than trying to round up the various parts and may be even a little less expensive. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-29-2013, 11:12 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	If you change the above parts, then leave them, it will appear mismatched if showing off . And to swap the breachblock alone is a pain, so you'd want to do an entire toggle. Thus a shooter would be cheaper. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-31-2013, 03:02 AM	#8
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Probably the parts most prone to break are the firing pin and the ejector, and I agree completeely with Ron, I don't want to sound like the usual "old grump" either BUT I would opt for replacing the gun with a "shooter". Safe shooting. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

10-27-2013, 04:44 PM	#3
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,308 Thanks: 2,737 Thanked 993 Times in 729 Posts	Maybe even a different breachblock if possible. What about the firing pin spring retainer.....I broke one of those shooting my DWM??

10-29-2013, 08:30 PM	#4
ZX-10R User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 26 Thanks: 5 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Thank you gentlemen, I will replace the mentioned parts.

10-30-2013, 03:46 PM	#7
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,308 Thanks: 2,737 Thanked 993 Times in 729 Posts	Of course a complete toggle train would be the "hot setup" as far a ease of change out and safety to your original parts....once it was fitted properly to your upper. I see them for sale occasionally, and if you don't mind a chrome plated one, or pitted/reblued one, the price can be pretty reasonable. You can never go wrong in just acquiring another Luger for shooting as suggested above.

10-31-2013, 05:08 AM	#9
ZX-10R User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 26 Thanks: 5 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Thanks for al the help, guys, Yes, a shooter would be nice, but unfortunately local gunlaws forbid me to own more than 5 firearms. I already own 4 more, which I need every one of them for hunting and match shooting. So I'll replace the mentioned parts and shoot it very very occasionally , just a few subsonic rounds.

10-31-2013, 09:40 AM	#10
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	ZX, I have most of the desired orig or new repro parts {less expensive) in stock, Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-17-2013, 09:54 AM	#11
ZX-10R User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 26 Thanks: 5 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Again, thank you for all your help. After a long thought i've decided not to shoot the gun anymore. Just can't stand the thought of breaking something on this piece of history, so I let her rest in my safe, nicely covered in Rennaissance Wax. Damn.....I'm turning into an old grump...

11-17-2013, 10:35 AM	#12
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	Do a forum search for "Broken Parts Survey." --Dwight