Luger for luftwaffe...?

Gebirg · 11-25-2012, 11:41 AM

The "L" next to the eagle over nazicross - is the pistol made for luftwaffe? It is a 1942 mod.

Edward Tinker · 11-25-2012, 11:47 AM

No, that is a police acceptance

Gebirg · 11-25-2012, 12:16 PM

are they rare?

lugerholsterrepair · 11-25-2012, 12:35 PM

Is the toggle inscription MAUSER? Date over the chamber 41-42?

mrerick · 11-25-2012, 07:01 PM

All matching, they are much more rare than military proofed pistols.

Marc

andwaahs · 11-26-2012, 02:17 PM

I tried to buy this very pistol about 7 months ago but got worked over by the dealer, did you buy it from Intersport by any chance+ Theres a thread I started about the markings here somewhere.
A very nice pistol with a nice holster if you got that too.

Gebirg · 11-27-2012, 12:07 AM

Jada, ser at Intersport i Bogstadveien skulle selge denne - de har sikkert solgt den, såg at den låg på finn.no
Enn du er du samler?

andwaahs · 11-27-2012, 10:17 AM

No I am not a collector unfortunatly, Its easier to join the Freemasons than be allowed into the Norwegian weapon collectors group

I was looking for Luger some time ago and I would have loved to have got my hands on this one, all I can say is never more will I do business with or recommend Intersport in Oslo. not nice people.
I had a similar nasty experience with Winge våpen when I tried to purchase a 1938 S/42.

So greedy they drive customers away.

DavidJayUden · 11-27-2012, 03:13 PM

So in Norway is the problem financial, or governmental restrictions on ownership of these guns?
dju

kpf · 11-27-2012, 03:55 PM

It is a govermential problem if you want to have several weapons, and now they are going crazy because of one sick man.
"22 July"

Regards

Kai

mrerick · 11-27-2012, 05:43 PM

In Norway, what are the requirements to become a "collector"; and what are the benefits?

Here in USA, you may collect what you want in terms of pistols and rifles and shotguns (with restrictions on fully automatic and silencers under our NFA), but acquisition and transfer are facilitated (especially between states) by having a Federal Firearms License (C&R Class 03).

I've always felt that the Norwegian approach to silencers (avoid bothering the neighbors) was more sensible that our approach (evil silent death facilitating accessories...).

Marc

DavidJayUden · 11-27-2012, 05:48 PM

So you are allowed to own only one weapon? One sick man would be the child killer? Too bad. Here in the US every time a deranged looser shoots his guns there are calls for more gun control, restrictions, etc, but for now there are enough of "us" that they haven't gotten far. But some day that will change.
dju

andwaahs · 11-27-2012, 05:50 PM

Short answer, if you take a fairly easy test for a hunting permit you are open to buy a whole arsenel of long guns with little or no raised eyebrows, if however you want just one handgun you must be kept an eye on as only deviants have an interest in such things, right? First you have to join a club, pay for a safety course, attend training routinely for six months, then you may apply for one pistol in heavy cal (.32 up) one in light (.22) the same for revolvers, one per category. If you compete on a regular basis the police may consider you worthy of a reserve weapon after one year.
There are other catagorys for Magnum and special weapons too but each weapon must be documented as being used in competition to keep on the right side of the law,also each time you apply for a new weapon it costs 80 bucks. I am having to give up some of my handguns as I simply haven't the time to attend all the comps, with two baby's taking up most of my time now.
To become a registered collector you have to be invited by the society that regulates this and attend regular meetings which are held 600 miles ( oops kilometeres not miles) from my city, until they feel you are worthy, however long this may take..The cost of this is simply staggering!
The only way this will ever happen is if you already have a friendship with a collector.
They are notoriously difficult to contact and become involved with, like I said very similar to the Freemasons.
As I said there are some more to it, but in a nutshell that's the situation.

All said and done its still a better deal than in Britain

DavidJayUden · 11-27-2012, 07:10 PM

Thank you for sharing this with us. Very interesting.
dju

Edward Tinker · 11-27-2012, 08:01 PM

Yes, hearing from others is amazing.... Talk to a UK collector sometime

DavidJayUden · 11-27-2012, 08:18 PM

The UK is just way too depressing. History unlearned is all I'm going to say...
dju

Gebirg · 11-28-2012, 01:25 PM

So, i did not buy that Luger from Intersport in Oslo, just curios... I am a lucky owner of a few german weapons from ww2, and i got one Luger - you can see my P08 if you find the thread "shot in blindness"...

andwaahs · 11-29-2012, 03:20 PM

Ahh, I wonder where it ended up then? I see you got a good one though, are you shooting Felt with it?

Gebirg · 12-02-2012, 12:45 PM

No, just funshooting with my Luger. In competition i use a number matched G.33/40 same model as my Luger, 1940. And i also use a m98 from 1939 made by Steyr for Luftwaffe, nr. match. beautiful rifles both of them...

11-25-2012, 11:41 AM	#1
Gebirg User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Telemark Posts: 94 Thanks: 68 Thanked 158 Times in 34 Posts	Luger for luftwaffe...? The "L" next to the eagle over nazicross - is the pistol made for luftwaffe? It is a 1942 mod. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Mr. AKB - Norway "SILENT LEGES INTER ARMA" Denn unter den Waffen schweigen die Gesetze (M.T.Cicero)

11-25-2012, 11:47 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	No, that is a police acceptance __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-25-2012, 12:16 PM	#3
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11-25-2012, 12:35 PM	#4
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11-25-2012, 07:01 PM	#5
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	All matching, they are much more rare than military proofed pistols. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-26-2012, 02:17 PM	#6
andwaahs User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Norway Posts: 85 Thanks: 41 Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts	I tried to buy this very pistol about 7 months ago but got worked over by the dealer, did you buy it from Intersport by any chance+ Theres a thread I started about the markings here somewhere. A very nice pistol with a nice holster if you got that too.

11-27-2012, 12:07 AM	#7
Gebirg User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Telemark Posts: 94 Thanks: 68 Thanked 158 Times in 34 Posts	Jada, ser at Intersport i Bogstadveien skulle selge denne - de har sikkert solgt den, såg at den låg på finn.no Enn du er du samler? __________________ Mr. AKB - Norway "SILENT LEGES INTER ARMA" Denn unter den Waffen schweigen die Gesetze (M.T.Cicero)

11-27-2012, 10:17 AM	#8
andwaahs User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Norway Posts: 85 Thanks: 41 Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts	No I am not a collector unfortunatly, Its easier to join the Freemasons than be allowed into the Norwegian weapon collectors group I was looking for Luger some time ago and I would have loved to have got my hands on this one, all I can say is never more will I do business with or recommend Intersport in Oslo. not nice people. I had a similar nasty experience with Winge våpen when I tried to purchase a 1938 S/42. So greedy they drive customers away.

11-27-2012, 03:13 PM	#9
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	So in Norway is the problem financial, or governmental restrictions on ownership of these guns? dju

11-27-2012, 03:55 PM	#10
kpf User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Finnøy, Norway Posts: 75 Thanks: 78 Thanked 36 Times in 10 Posts	It is a govermential problem if you want to have several weapons, and now they are going crazy because of one sick man. "22 July" Regards Kai

11-27-2012, 05:43 PM	#11
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	In Norway, what are the requirements to become a "collector"; and what are the benefits? Here in USA, you may collect what you want in terms of pistols and rifles and shotguns (with restrictions on fully automatic and silencers under our NFA), but acquisition and transfer are facilitated (especially between states) by having a Federal Firearms License (C&R Class 03). I've always felt that the Norwegian approach to silencers (avoid bothering the neighbors) was more sensible that our approach (evil silent death facilitating accessories...). Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-27-2012, 05:48 PM	#12
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	So you are allowed to own only one weapon? One sick man would be the child killer? Too bad. Here in the US every time a deranged looser shoots his guns there are calls for more gun control, restrictions, etc, but for now there are enough of "us" that they haven't gotten far. But some day that will change. dju

11-27-2012, 05:50 PM	#13
andwaahs User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Norway Posts: 85 Thanks: 41 Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts	Short answer, if you take a fairly easy test for a hunting permit you are open to buy a whole arsenel of long guns with little or no raised eyebrows, if however you want just one handgun you must be kept an eye on as only deviants have an interest in such things, right? First you have to join a club, pay for a safety course, attend training routinely for six months, then you may apply for one pistol in heavy cal (.32 up) one in light (.22) the same for revolvers, one per category. If you compete on a regular basis the police may consider you worthy of a reserve weapon after one year. There are other catagorys for Magnum and special weapons too but each weapon must be documented as being used in competition to keep on the right side of the law,also each time you apply for a new weapon it costs 80 bucks. I am having to give up some of my handguns as I simply haven't the time to attend all the comps, with two baby's taking up most of my time now. To become a registered collector you have to be invited by the society that regulates this and attend regular meetings which are held 600 miles ( oops kilometeres not miles) from my city, until they feel you are worthy, however long this may take..The cost of this is simply staggering! The only way this will ever happen is if you already have a friendship with a collector. They are notoriously difficult to contact and become involved with, like I said very similar to the Freemasons. As I said there are some more to it, but in a nutshell that's the situation. All said and done its still a better deal than in Britain Last edited by andwaahs; 11-29-2012 at 03:16 PM.

11-27-2012, 07:10 PM	#14
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Thank you for sharing this with us. Very interesting. dju

11-27-2012, 08:01 PM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Yes, hearing from others is amazing.... Talk to a UK collector sometime __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-27-2012, 08:18 PM	#16
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	The UK is just way too depressing. History unlearned is all I'm going to say... dju

11-28-2012, 01:25 PM	#17
Gebirg User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Telemark Posts: 94 Thanks: 68 Thanked 158 Times in 34 Posts	So, i did not buy that Luger from Intersport in Oslo, just curios... I am a lucky owner of a few german weapons from ww2, and i got one Luger - you can see my P08 if you find the thread "shot in blindness"... __________________ Mr. AKB - Norway "SILENT LEGES INTER ARMA" Denn unter den Waffen schweigen die Gesetze (M.T.Cicero)

11-29-2012, 03:20 PM	#18
andwaahs User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Norway Posts: 85 Thanks: 41 Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts	Ahh, I wonder where it ended up then? I see you got a good one though, are you shooting Felt with it?

12-02-2012, 12:45 PM	#19
Gebirg User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Telemark Posts: 94 Thanks: 68 Thanked 158 Times in 34 Posts	No, just funshooting with my Luger. In competition i use a number matched G.33/40 same model as my Luger, 1940. And i also use a m98 from 1939 made by Steyr for Luftwaffe, nr. match. beautiful rifles both of them... __________________ Mr. AKB - Norway "SILENT LEGES INTER ARMA" Denn unter den Waffen schweigen die Gesetze (M.T.Cicero)