M1 carbine

rolandtg · 07-20-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by postino

Can you post a pic??? What is the significance of the Keith cartouche???

The M1 carbine has never much interested me (although I presently have three Enfield carbines)....But I did love my M14 in boot camp back in '69-'70 (last year Parris Island had recruits qualify with them, I believe)...And later built up an M1A from a used M14 'parts kit' and a semi-auto receiver...Really liked that; hated to part with it...

I'm not sure it would photograph well. (And it's buried pretty deep in the safe, that photo I posted is old.)
It's "O.G.E.K" with a box around it stamped on the buttstock.
There's no real significance, Elmer Keith, developer of the .357, .41, and .44 magnum cartridges worked as an inspector at the Ogden, Utah arsenal during WWII. I have no idea if the stock is original to the gun, it's probably not as most carbines were rebuilt after the war. It might add a couple of bucks to the value to a collector, or not. He inspected a lot of rifles during his time there.
I just think it's kinda neat.

sheepherder · 07-21-2012, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rolandtg

There's no real significance, Elmer Keith, developer of the .357, .41, and .44 magnum cartridges worked as an inspector at the Ogden, Utah arsenal during WWII.

My Speer Reloading Manual states that major D. B. Wesson (of S&W fame) designed the .357 magnum in 1935, but although I have read several articles & one book about Elmer Keith, I did not know he was an inspector at that arsenal during WW II.

I've always enjoyed his exploits and his anecdotes, but like all such stories, they get better the more they're told...

rolandtg · 07-21-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by postino

My Speer Reloading Manual states that major D. B. Wesson (of S&W fame) designed the .357 magnum in 1935, but although I have read several articles & one book about Elmer Keith, I did not know he was an inspector at that arsenal during WW II.

Keith worked on developing the cartridge, Wesson contributed as well.

I've fired a lot of GI carbines and they were all pretty accurate, even an Israeli import with a barrel like a sewer pipe!

sheepherder · 07-21-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rolandtg

Keith worked on developing the cartridge, Wesson contributed as well.

Some years back, someone made a lengthened .357 and IIRC called it the .357 Maximum...And someone else lengthened *that*, and called it the .357...something...

I think that S&W made some revolvers to handle the new extended .357 magnum cartridges, but there were concerns with erosion of the chambers...

Anyone know whatever happened to these super-.357 magnums???

Fazer · 07-22-2012, 04:44 AM

We always had carbines and Garands, and 03A3s around the house. The old man used to "find" 20 gallan drums of ammo for them. Never did find out where it actually came from, but it was always there. There wasn't much money around, so it couldn't have cost him much. Looking back he was probably trading stuff from work for it.

If you wantd to go shooting Sunday, you had to find time on Saturday to load magazines and enblocks or you were left behind.

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Fazer Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Perth, West Oz Posts: 93 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	We always had carbines and Garands, and 03A3s around the house. The old man used to "find" 20 gallan drums of ammo for them. Never did find out where it actually came from, but it was always there. There wasn't much money around, so it couldn't have cost him much. Looking back he was probably trading stuff from work for it. If you wantd to go shooting Sunday, you had to find time on Saturday to load magazines and enblocks or you were left behind.