M1 carbine

cdmech · 07-19-2012, 08:34 PM

I wanted one of these for some time, finally gave in. It's a wonderfull mixmaster: National Postal Meter reciever, IBM barrel, and Inland trigger assembly. I got to shoot is for the first time today and I think I found a new favorite toy!
Marc

lugerholsterrepair · 07-19-2012, 08:46 PM

Marc, I started collecting Carbines before I got into Lugers. They are nifty little rifles for sure. Congrats! Enjoy..

nukem556 · 07-19-2012, 08:51 PM

They are fun little guns....an M1 Carbine was the very first rifle I bought the day I turned 18!

Edward Tinker · 07-19-2012, 10:20 PM

Only one rifle better, the M1 Garand

No matter what folks say, I would never want to be shot at with an M1 Carbine

I love em

policeluger · 07-19-2012, 10:26 PM

Ditto all above coments, the first gun I always reach for when I just want to plink.....and with about 38k rounds I sure not to run out of ammo soon....

mjanway · 07-19-2012, 10:40 PM

Very nice.

Purchased a lot of carbine parts at a gun show last weekend. Only one carbine in the whole show but lots of parts.

alanint · 07-19-2012, 10:41 PM

The myth that they are underpowered is just that, a myth. I got into it one day with a buddy who insisted he would be better served with a .45. We took an M1 Thompson and my M2 Carbine out to a field and placed an M1 steel pot out at 50 yards. After a burst from each gun, the Tommy merely dented the pot and every carbine round that hit it went clean through.
Nuff' said....

rolandtg · 07-19-2012, 10:44 PM

Looks good! The carbine is my favorite little rifle as well! I have a Saginaw with an Underwood barrel. I found it at a gun shop about 20 years ago.
It has an Elmer Keith inspection cartouche.
The M1 rifle is a CMP gun. A '43 Springfield with a '46 dated barrel.

cdmech · 07-19-2012, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rolandtg

Looks good! The carbine is my favorite little rifle as well! I have a Saginaw with an Underwood barrel. I found it at a gun shop about 20 years ago.
It has an Elmer Keith inspection cartouche.
The M1 rifle is a CMP gun. A '43 Springfield with a '46 dated barrel.

Now my carbine looks lonely. I think it needs some friends.
Marc

rolandtg · 07-19-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cdmech

Now my carbine looks lonely. I think it needs some friends.
Marc

Yes, those two are very happy together!
I don't shoot the Garand much any more, it takes too long to clean!

policeluger · 07-20-2012, 12:33 AM

Need to get an M1 and keep it, sold 'em all time went by, however bought an M1a years ago, had the Navy NM it and would not sell it for anything......

earlyluger · 07-20-2012, 06:18 AM

Heh, I have the bug too. Started with a 1911. Then found a M1 Garand in a used bin at the LGS. Cabela's was the source for my M1 Carbine, it was a Plainfield Machine post war civilian but just as tasty and a lot more affordable at $300. I also picked up a Springfield M1A and a Springfield M1903-A3 to round off the collection.

rhuff · 07-20-2012, 04:54 PM

Congrats on your carbine purchase. These rifles have been a favorite of mine for more years than I care to admit to. I purchased two in the early 1970s, and still have them. As "father time" effects my shoulder joints, I find that the 30 Carbine round is much more comfortable to shoot than the 30-06 round. I wish I would have purchased an M2 Carbine back when they were relatively inexpensive.....but I didn't.

Aaron · 07-20-2012, 07:55 PM

Back around 1960 I was a medical officer stationed at the Norfolk Naval Base. As an eye doctor, it was in my power to provide personnel with prescription sunglasses mounted in nice gold aviator frames. These were normally reserved for aviation personnel, but I often stretched the rules and issued them to non-flying types. In appreciation, I often found very nice gifts on my desk, such as nice goatskin leather flight jackets, 1911A1 pistols, an occasional Luger or Nambu, etc. It so happens that nearby was a facility run by a Chief petty officer which did nothing but destroy M1 carbines by cutting them up with torches. I took good care of this Chief, his crew, and his family, and like clockwork every few days he left a couple of mint carbines, many in the original cosmoline, in my office. He also gave me many 600 round sealed cans of ammo. All these carbines were not considered worth much, maybe twenty bucks apiece, so they were often traded for other things we needed in our clinic, such as twenty pound tins of coffee, cigarettes, and once I even got my jeep overhauled. Who would have thought???

sheepherder · 07-20-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rolandtg

It has an Elmer Keith inspection cartouche.

Can you post a pic??? What is the significance of the Keith cartouche???

The M1 carbine has never much interested me (although I presently have three Enfield carbines)....But I did love my M14 in boot camp back in '69-'70 (last year Parris Island had recruits qualify with them, I believe)...And later built up an M1A from a used M14 'parts kit' and a semi-auto receiver...Really liked that; hated to part with it...

rolandtg · 07-20-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by postino

Can you post a pic??? What is the significance of the Keith cartouche???

The M1 carbine has never much interested me (although I presently have three Enfield carbines)....But I did love my M14 in boot camp back in '69-'70 (last year Parris Island had recruits qualify with them, I believe)...And later built up an M1A from a used M14 'parts kit' and a semi-auto receiver...Really liked that; hated to part with it...

I'm not sure it would photograph well. (And it's buried pretty deep in the safe, that photo I posted is old.)
It's "O.G.E.K" with a box around it stamped on the buttstock.
There's no real significance, Elmer Keith, developer of the .357, .41, and .44 magnum cartridges worked as an inspector at the Ogden, Utah arsenal during WWII. I have no idea if the stock is original to the gun, it's probably not as most carbines were rebuilt after the war. It might add a couple of bucks to the value to a collector, or not. He inspected a lot of rifles during his time there.
I just think it's kinda neat.

sheepherder · 07-21-2012, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rolandtg

There's no real significance, Elmer Keith, developer of the .357, .41, and .44 magnum cartridges worked as an inspector at the Ogden, Utah arsenal during WWII.

My Speer Reloading Manual states that major D. B. Wesson (of S&W fame) designed the .357 magnum in 1935, but although I have read several articles & one book about Elmer Keith, I did not know he was an inspector at that arsenal during WW II.

I've always enjoyed his exploits and his anecdotes, but like all such stories, they get better the more they're told...

alvin · 07-21-2012, 07:03 AM

I had a newly made Auto Ordnance M1 back a few years ago. Those newly made ones look great but performed poorly. Major problem was accuracy: a gun of this size could not even compare with a pistol at 50 yards, and its bullets flew everywhere. I bought it NIB.

No experience with WWII ones yet.

alanint · 07-21-2012, 08:27 AM

WW2 originals are very accurate, even with the original GI flip sight.

rolandtg · 07-21-2012, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino

My Speer Reloading Manual states that major D. B. Wesson (of S&W fame) designed the .357 magnum in 1935, but although I have read several articles & one book about Elmer Keith, I did not know he was an inspector at that arsenal during WW II.

Keith worked on developing the cartridge, Wesson contributed as well.

I've fired a lot of GI carbines and they were all pretty accurate, even an Israeli import with a barrel like a sewer pipe!

07-19-2012, 08:34 PM	#1
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07-19-2012, 08:46 PM	#2
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07-19-2012, 10:20 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Only one rifle better, the M1 Garand No matter what folks say, I would never want to be shot at with an M1 Carbine I love em __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-19-2012, 10:44 PM	#8
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 479 Thanks: 389 Thanked 265 Times in 114 Posts	Looks good! The carbine is my favorite little rifle as well! I have a Saginaw with an Underwood barrel. I found it at a gun shop about 20 years ago. It has an Elmer Keith inspection cartouche. The M1 rifle is a CMP gun. A '43 Springfield with a '46 dated barrel. Attached Thumbnails

07-19-2012, 08:51 PM	#3
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	They are fun little guns....an M1 Carbine was the very first rifle I bought the day I turned 18!

07-19-2012, 10:26 PM	#5
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Ditto all above coments, the first gun I always reach for when I just want to plink.....and with about 38k rounds I sure not to run out of ammo soon....

07-19-2012, 10:40 PM	#6
mjanway User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 54 Thanks: 31 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Very nice. Purchased a lot of carbine parts at a gun show last weekend. Only one carbine in the whole show but lots of parts.

07-19-2012, 10:41 PM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	The myth that they are underpowered is just that, a myth. I got into it one day with a buddy who insisted he would be better served with a .45. We took an M1 Thompson and my M2 Carbine out to a field and placed an M1 steel pot out at 50 yards. After a burst from each gun, the Tommy merely dented the pot and every carbine round that hit it went clean through. Nuff' said....

07-20-2012, 12:33 AM	#11
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Need to get an M1 and keep it, sold 'em all time went by, however bought an M1a years ago, had the Navy NM it and would not sell it for anything......

07-20-2012, 06:18 AM	#12
earlyluger User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 27 Thanks: 11 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Heh, I have the bug too. Started with a 1911. Then found a M1 Garand in a used bin at the LGS. Cabela's was the source for my M1 Carbine, it was a Plainfield Machine post war civilian but just as tasty and a lot more affordable at $300. I also picked up a Springfield M1A and a Springfield M1903-A3 to round off the collection.

07-20-2012, 04:54 PM	#13
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,308 Thanks: 2,737 Thanked 993 Times in 729 Posts	Congrats on your carbine purchase. These rifles have been a favorite of mine for more years than I care to admit to. I purchased two in the early 1970s, and still have them. As "father time" effects my shoulder joints, I find that the 30 Carbine round is much more comfortable to shoot than the 30-06 round. I wish I would have purchased an M2 Carbine back when they were relatively inexpensive.....but I didn't.

07-20-2012, 07:55 PM	#14
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Back around 1960 I was a medical officer stationed at the Norfolk Naval Base. As an eye doctor, it was in my power to provide personnel with prescription sunglasses mounted in nice gold aviator frames. These were normally reserved for aviation personnel, but I often stretched the rules and issued them to non-flying types. In appreciation, I often found very nice gifts on my desk, such as nice goatskin leather flight jackets, 1911A1 pistols, an occasional Luger or Nambu, etc. It so happens that nearby was a facility run by a Chief petty officer which did nothing but destroy M1 carbines by cutting them up with torches. I took good care of this Chief, his crew, and his family, and like clockwork every few days he left a couple of mint carbines, many in the original cosmoline, in my office. He also gave me many 600 round sealed cans of ammo. All these carbines were not considered worth much, maybe twenty bucks apiece, so they were often traded for other things we needed in our clinic, such as twenty pound tins of coffee, cigarettes, and once I even got my jeep overhauled. Who would have thought???

07-21-2012, 07:03 AM	#18
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	I had a newly made Auto Ordnance M1 back a few years ago. Those newly made ones look great but performed poorly. Major problem was accuracy: a gun of this size could not even compare with a pistol at 50 yards, and its bullets flew everywhere. I bought it NIB. No experience with WWII ones yet.

07-21-2012, 08:27 AM	#19
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	WW2 originals are very accurate, even with the original GI flip sight.