Luger carbine question

The Gunsmith · 10-15-2011, 04:07 PM

Thinking of building a Luger carbine, need sources for parts, mainly stock and forearm reproduction parts.any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm kinda new to working on Lugers, need all the help I can get! Many thanks in advance.

alanint · 10-15-2011, 06:07 PM

Remember that if you plan to use anything under 16" for the barrel it would have to be registered as an SBR.

The Gunsmith · 10-15-2011, 06:46 PM

Thanks, already have the forms...........

cirelaw · 10-15-2011, 06:51 PM

Is this your first attempt to build a luger, much less a carbine. Heres is a misconception that the 1920 was built by scrap parts, Maybe the grip and grip screws. THESE WEREN'T GUNS MADE PIECE MEAL! THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER TRUSTED THEM TO HEADS OF STATE! John Martz is the only one I know to do it justice. Take a look on Gunbroker. Every now and then one will surface!One of Johns carbine is now being offered on Gunbroker and no one could do better.

sheepherder · 10-15-2011, 08:08 PM

Barrels and sometimes barreled receivers show up on GB quite often. Numrich and other distributors sold a bunch of them. Forearms...well, you got a knife???

Welding/brazing that forearm lug onto the frame will be...interesting...

And you'd better set aside some time to tune it to your favorite load...

Check with Tom Heller...Seems like he mentioned something to somebody some time ago about a 16" barrel...

cirelaw · 10-15-2011, 08:25 PM

Leave the surgery to the surgeons unless you have been down this road before.

The Gunsmith · 10-15-2011, 09:34 PM

Got the plans, some scrap frames to experiment with, and one of the best gunsmiths in the state working with me. All I need is good source for some of the pieces I'll need.This guy builds miniatures and is very capable.
I can make my own barrel, and probably can turn out the stock and forearm,but want to save as much work as possible. My background goes back almost 30 years building custom guns and gunsmithing. The only reason I never did a Luger was I never had one that I enjoyed shooting. I recently shot a buddies artillery Luger, and decided to give 'em another chance. I had hoped to aquire some information from your forum as to where to get parts. I can and will build this gun, it may take a while,but I'll post picks when it is done.

The Gunsmith · 10-15-2011, 11:29 PM

Thank you for the information, that's the kind of help I was hoping for! It can be done, after all, a gun is a gun, there is nothing magical about the Luger, just a lot of quality machine and hand work.

Neil Young · 10-16-2011, 08:12 AM

Gunsmith:
I'm going to be one of your cheerleaders. Sounds like you have the background to handle such a project and having another experienced gunsmith for collaboration is a plus. I wish you well on your project and will be following your progress if you decide to share, and I hope you will.

Thanks.

Neil

sheepherder · 10-16-2011, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Young

Gunsmith:
I'm going to be one of your cheerleaders.

+ 1

My first post here was about making my own artillery barrel. I also was pooh-poohed by some of the more pessimistic members here. I expanded my request for dimensions to a 4 page tutorial on barrel fabrication...Which was more-or-less favorably received by two or three members...

Member Tennbill2 here has made his own Borchardt C93 from scratch. There is some talent here. Most tend to remain silent...A pity, as there is a wealth of knowledge here...

cirelaw · 10-16-2011, 10:33 AM

Hey They thought Noah could never build his Ark!!

The Gunsmith · 10-16-2011, 10:54 AM

A pic of my last project. Started out as 4" 357 model 686, converted to 5" 44 special with target hammer and trigger, full action job, custom grips and sights.

Lugerdoc · 10-21-2011, 10:39 AM

GS, I may still have a few of Martz's Carbine parts in stock (forearm hanger, stock irons, etc) but no wooden parts. At one time, Replica Arms of Va. was offering a diamentionally correct (legal) repro M1902 type Carbine stock for around $500. TH

cirelaw · 10-21-2011, 11:47 AM

I can provide any examples that you made need!

The Gunsmith · 10-21-2011, 12:52 PM

Thanks guys, I can copy the wood if I can find some good drawings with proper dimentions.

cirelaw · 10-21-2011, 01:24 PM

I can trace one out or provide any other samples 13" X 4 1/2"

10-15-2011, 04:07 PM	#1
The Gunsmith User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Luger carbine question Thinking of building a Luger carbine, need sources for parts, mainly stock and forearm reproduction parts.any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm kinda new to working on Lugers, need all the help I can get! Many thanks in advance.

10-15-2011, 06:51 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Is this your first attempt to build a luger, much less a carbine. Heres is a misconception that the 1920 was built by scrap parts, Maybe the grip and grip screws. THESE WEREN'T GUNS MADE PIECE MEAL! THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER TRUSTED THEM TO HEADS OF STATE! John Martz is the only one I know to do it justice. Take a look on Gunbroker. Every now and then one will surface!One of Johns carbine is now being offered on Gunbroker and no one could do better. Attached Thumbnails

10-15-2011, 08:08 PM	#5
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Barrels and sometimes barreled receivers show up on GB quite often. Numrich and other distributors sold a bunch of them. Forearms...well, you got a knife??? Welding/brazing that forearm lug onto the frame will be...interesting... And you'd better set aside some time to tune it to your favorite load... Check with Tom Heller...Seems like he mentioned something to somebody some time ago about a 16" barrel... Attached Thumbnails __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

10-16-2011, 08:12 AM	#9
Neil Young Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scottsboro, Alabama Posts: 548 Thanks: 566 Thanked 443 Times in 168 Posts	Gunsmith: I'm going to be one of your cheerleaders. Sounds like you have the background to handle such a project and having another experienced gunsmith for collaboration is a plus. I wish you well on your project and will be following your progress if you decide to share, and I hope you will. Thanks. Neil __________________ Neil The hurrier I go the behinder I get. Sometimes it takes me all day to get nothing done.

10-16-2011, 10:33 AM	#11
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Hey They thought Noah could never build his Ark!! Attached Images

10-15-2011, 06:07 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Remember that if you plan to use anything under 16" for the barrel it would have to be registered as an SBR.

10-15-2011, 06:46 PM	#3
The Gunsmith User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Thanks, already have the forms...........

10-15-2011, 08:25 PM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Leave the surgery to the surgeons unless you have been down this road before.

10-15-2011, 09:34 PM	#7
The Gunsmith User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Got the plans, some scrap frames to experiment with, and one of the best gunsmiths in the state working with me. All I need is good source for some of the pieces I'll need.This guy builds miniatures and is very capable. I can make my own barrel, and probably can turn out the stock and forearm,but want to save as much work as possible. My background goes back almost 30 years building custom guns and gunsmithing. The only reason I never did a Luger was I never had one that I enjoyed shooting. I recently shot a buddies artillery Luger, and decided to give 'em another chance. I had hoped to aquire some information from your forum as to where to get parts. I can and will build this gun, it may take a while,but I'll post picks when it is done.

10-15-2011, 11:29 PM	#8
The Gunsmith User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Thank you for the information, that's the kind of help I was hoping for! It can be done, after all, a gun is a gun, there is nothing magical about the Luger, just a lot of quality machine and hand work.

10-16-2011, 10:54 AM	#12
The Gunsmith User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	A pic of my last project. Started out as 4" 357 model 686, converted to 5" 44 special with target hammer and trigger, full action job, custom grips and sights. Attached Thumbnails

10-21-2011, 10:39 AM	#13
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	GS, I may still have a few of Martz's Carbine parts in stock (forearm hanger, stock irons, etc) but no wooden parts. At one time, Replica Arms of Va. was offering a diamentionally correct (legal) repro M1902 type Carbine stock for around $500. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-21-2011, 11:47 AM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	They are the finest! I can provide any examples that you made need! Attached Thumbnails

10-21-2011, 12:52 PM	#15
The Gunsmith User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Thanks guys, I can copy the wood if I can find some good drawings with proper dimentions.

10-21-2011, 01:24 PM	#16
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	I can trace one out or provide any other samples 13" X 4 1/2" Attached Thumbnails