7.63 Mauser in Luger??

nukem556 · 08-16-2011, 11:15 PM

Lou-ger Reed?

sheepherder · 08-17-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nukem556

Lou-ger Reed?

Yup! Great tune!

This is one of Werle's Lugers??? Per Vlim's suggestion, maybe Herbert Werle will tell you what needs to be done to make this work...I'd be interested in knowing...

nukem556 · 08-17-2011, 08:09 AM

Me too....if it's a safe conversion, that 7.63 in a 6 or 8in barrel would make a flat shooting field pistol.

sheepherder · 08-17-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nukem556

Me too....if it's a safe conversion, that 7.63 in a 6 or 8in barrel would make a flat shooting field pistol.

Shooting the extractor straight up in the air, you mean???

I don't have any comparisons of the 7.65 Luger round vs the 7.63 Mauser...It would be interesting to see chamber pressure, velocity, volume, etc...

The only quick reference I have uses two different powders and two different bullet weights...but it looks like the 30 Mauser wasn't all that much different in velocity...1210 vs 1300 '/sec...

Edit - I was wrong; I do have a comparison of sorts...My 45th Edition Lyman Reloading handbook lists both cartridges, with the same three powders and two identical bullets...

(Dunno what year this was...but it's old...)

sheepherder · 08-17-2011, 09:23 AM

Bob, Lyman's data seems to suggest that with like bullets & powder, there is little difference between the two...

nukem556 · 08-17-2011, 10:56 AM

Yeah, I've noticed that in the latest ed. of the Lee manual, too, the Mauser and Luger loads are close, maybe because Lee has some 93gr Luger loads maxed out at 1340fps! The only big advantage would be at the Tokarev load level, and I wouldn't wanna try that in a Luger. I chrono'ed some Polish ammo out of my CZ52 that was going 1610fps !

sheepherder · 08-17-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nukem556

Yeah, I've noticed that in the latest ed. of the Lee manual, too, the Mauser and Luger loads are close...

The Lyman has the 30 Mauser out of a 5 1/2" bbl; the Luger out of a 3 3/4" bbl...If they were both equal bbl lengths, they would probably be the same, IMO...All else being equal...

Somewhat surprising, to me anyway, as I always thought the 30 Mauser was supposed to be a hot load...Maybe the original military load was, but these three powders don't seem especially hot...

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08-17-2011, 10:56 AM	#6
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	Yeah, I've noticed that in the latest ed. of the Lee manual, too, the Mauser and Luger loads are close, maybe because Lee has some 93gr Luger loads maxed out at 1340fps! The only big advantage would be at the Tokarev load level, and I wouldn't wanna try that in a Luger. I chrono'ed some Polish ammo out of my CZ52 that was going 1610fps !