Luger rear sight problem(?)

PRD1 · 02-15-2011, 10:19 PM

Boy, did you come to the wrong shop! I lack both equipment and expertise for making and posting photos.
However, I did order just the rearmost toggle segment (which features the cocking knobs AND the needed rear sight, and discussed the operation with Lugerdoc, who confirmed what I believed was the proper procedure:
Drive out the small retaining pin at the left-hand end of the rear pivot pin (upward), then press or drive out the pivot pin itself; right-to-left - reassemble in reverse order - apply creative language as and whenever necessary.
I've got hammers, punches, and, should it prove necessary, an arbor press, so am anticipating a successful operation. I'll let you know...
In addition, I spent some time this afternoon disassembling, cleaning and reassembling one of my wood-based Luger magazines, according to the instructions provided by G.T. (you would not BELIEVE the amount of corruption and gunk which came out of that magazine): the patient survived the operation and I only needed one medium bandaid. My advice: send your magazines to G.T.!
PRD1 - mhb - Mike

sheepherder · 02-16-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PRD1

Drive out the small retaining pin at the left-hand end of the rear pivot pin (upward), then press or drive out the pivot pin itself; right-to-left - reassemble in reverse order

My, that does sound simple! Please let us [me mostly] know how well that works out!

And let us [me] know how many other tools/pin drivers/pin blocks/etc you made to make the process easier...

PRD1 · 02-16-2011, 12:38 PM

Will do!
I hope not to have to fabricate anything I don't already have, but that may be a forlorn hope...
In barrelmaking and gunsmithing you nearly ALWAYS have to make something before you can complete any job at all.
PRD1 - mhb - Mike

sheepherder · 02-16-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by prd1

in barrelmaking and gunsmithing you nearly always have to make something before you can complete any job at all.

+ 1

PRD1 · 03-01-2011, 02:12 PM

I received the replacement rear toggle section (with rear sight) from the Lugerdoc: the turn-around was fast and the part was exactly as described.
Installation went without a hitch - the original part was removed and replaced with the new one - no difficulty at all was experienced in driving out the original pins or replacing them in the toggle assembly. The toggle fits and functions perfectly in the pistol.
I shot it this morning, and was very pleased! The POI, previously about a foot low at 15 yards is now about 3" high at the same distance, which accords well with my previous experience with Luger pistols. The front sight needed to be driven to the left a bit to center the group horizontally (it was already off-center the other way, so it is now closer to center than originally). The final 5 rounds went into just about 1", which is outstanding accuracy, considering the somewhat tired bore, less-than ideal sight picture and typically squashy trigger pull.
If I work-up some ambition, I may fabricate a rear sight for the original, altered Artillery toggle section, but there is no urgency...
In summary, I'm very happy with the outcome! Thanks all around for the good advice, and special thanks to the Lugerdoc!
PRD1 - mhb - Mike

02-15-2011, 10:19 PM	#1
PRD1 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: S.E. AZ Posts: 69 Thanks: 18 Thanked 32 Times in 8 Posts	Pictorial tutorial!!!??? Boy, did you come to the wrong shop! I lack both equipment and expertise for making and posting photos. However, I did order just the rearmost toggle segment (which features the cocking knobs AND the needed rear sight, and discussed the operation with Lugerdoc, who confirmed what I believed was the proper procedure: Drive out the small retaining pin at the left-hand end of the rear pivot pin (upward), then press or drive out the pivot pin itself; right-to-left - reassemble in reverse order - apply creative language as and whenever necessary. I've got hammers, punches, and, should it prove necessary, an arbor press, so am anticipating a successful operation. I'll let you know... In addition, I spent some time this afternoon disassembling, cleaning and reassembling one of my wood-based Luger magazines, according to the instructions provided by G.T. (you would not BELIEVE the amount of corruption and gunk which came out of that magazine): the patient survived the operation and I only needed one medium bandaid. My advice: send your magazines to G.T.! PRD1 - mhb - Mike

02-16-2011, 12:38 PM	#3
PRD1 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: S.E. AZ Posts: 69 Thanks: 18 Thanked 32 Times in 8 Posts	Postino: Will do! I hope not to have to fabricate anything I don't already have, but that may be a forlorn hope... In barrelmaking and gunsmithing you nearly ALWAYS have to make something before you can complete any job at all. PRD1 - mhb - Mike

03-01-2011, 02:12 PM	#5
PRD1 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: S.E. AZ Posts: 69 Thanks: 18 Thanked 32 Times in 8 Posts	Followup... I received the replacement rear toggle section (with rear sight) from the Lugerdoc: the turn-around was fast and the part was exactly as described. Installation went without a hitch - the original part was removed and replaced with the new one - no difficulty at all was experienced in driving out the original pins or replacing them in the toggle assembly. The toggle fits and functions perfectly in the pistol. I shot it this morning, and was very pleased! The POI, previously about a foot low at 15 yards is now about 3" high at the same distance, which accords well with my previous experience with Luger pistols. The front sight needed to be driven to the left a bit to center the group horizontally (it was already off-center the other way, so it is now closer to center than originally). The final 5 rounds went into just about 1", which is outstanding accuracy, considering the somewhat tired bore, less-than ideal sight picture and typically squashy trigger pull. If I work-up some ambition, I may fabricate a rear sight for the original, altered Artillery toggle section, but there is no urgency... In summary, I'm very happy with the outcome! Thanks all around for the good advice, and special thanks to the Lugerdoc! PRD1 - mhb - Mike