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Unread 02-13-2011, 05:29 PM   #1
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From your description, it almost sounds like a sight notch cut into an artillery rear toggle link. That's probably not what it is, but I told you my imagination did some wild things.

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Unread 02-13-2011, 05:42 PM   #2
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From your description, it almost sounds like a sight notch cut into an artillery rear toggle link.
That's what it sounds like to me, too. I have an artillery toggle with a notched rear sight screwed to it. And we have had pics of artillery Lugers with 4" barrels fitted without any rear sights at all. Plus at least one 4" artillery barrel w/arty rear sight...

So it's possible...even likely...
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Thanks for the insights (grin!)!
I could easily believe the pistol might have originally been an artillery: I had already been pretty sure it was a post WW1 rebuild. Another feature I didn't mention earlier is that there is a 'notch' and small flat in the front of the receiver ring, leaving the barrel shoulder standing above the receiver ring at that point: I can easily imagine that cut being a clearance/seat for the back of the artillery rear sight.
Those crazy Germans would do anything to make a buck after the Great War, and the American buying public didn't know any better...
I will indeed check and see whether I can get a replacement toggle with proper rear sight, which should help solve the problem.
As I don't have a reference on Lugers, is there any place I could view photos of the various toggle assemblies?
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Another feature I didn't mention earlier is that there is a 'notch' and small flat in the front of the receiver ring, leaving the barrel shoulder standing above the receiver ring at that point: I can easily imagine that cut being a clearance/seat for the back of the artillery rear sight.
That's exactly what it is.

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As I don't have a reference on Lugers, is there any place I could view photos of the various toggle assemblies?
I only have a couple...maybe 5...

Others here have whole collections of toggle trains...

But here's an Erfurt Artillery toggle compared to an S/42 Army toggle...
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Thanks! Mystery solved.
The photo makes it perfectly clear that what the Squareheads did was simply mill a cut across the back of the Artillery toggle and notch the top of the hump. What a bunch of wild and crazy guys!
The cobbled-up toggle is a DWM, and the other half of my Luger 'collection' is a 1937 S/42.
Appreciate your assistance - now I just need to round-up a new toggle.
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I contacted the Lugerdoc today: he has exactly what I need, and my letter and check go out with the morning's mail. I'll let you all know how this turns out!
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I contacted the Lugerdoc today: he has exactly what I need, and my letter and check go out with the morning's mail. I'll let you all know how this turns out!
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Hmmm...Did you buy just the rear toggle (the one with the sight), or work out a trade for a complete train???

I hope you're disassembling the toggles; I haven't tried it yet, but I'd love to see your pictorial tutorial on disassembling a toggle assembly...
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