Odd Artillery Lugers on GB???

sheepherder · 10-13-2010, 09:44 AM

Just browsing GB for arty's on my day off, and noticed what I consider odd arty Lugers...

Strangely shaped takedown lever???

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=195410591

Another clamshell arty holster???

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=195171906

American Eagle artillery??? W/grip safety & no stock lug???

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=195048939

I have no experience with artillery Lugers...Are these all representative examples???

Vlim · 10-13-2010, 10:44 AM

The first has been reblued, so the takedown lever is probably the result of a repair.

The second has also been reblued in the past. Interesting combo, but can be assembled by anyone anywhere at any time

The third is a parts gun. Note that the receiver is not notched. My best guess is that this started out as a normal commercial AE and that someone fitted an arty barrel. Note it has no notch for the rear sight.

John Sabato · 10-13-2010, 10:49 AM

#1 is a repaired takedown lever (looks to me like the end of a 1900 safety lever has been grafted onto the original takedown lever stub)

#2 is a Riechsrevolver holster that has had an additional couple of inches added to the barrel section to accomodate an artillery pistol

#3 is definitely a parts gun no matter what the seller says. The gun has been rebarreled with an artillery barrel. It appears to be a long frame upper receiver that has been faced off to the short length...

So the answer to your questions is a definite NO, these are not representative of factory output... they are kludges...

Edward Tinker · 10-13-2010, 11:08 AM

Quote:

American Eagle stamped 9mm ,DWM, nice condition, great bore, serial 34828, witness marks perfect not a re-barrel. Once considered to be the issue firearm for U.S. Gov. troops, hence the Eagle on top. Same stamp as on the back of our dollar bill. Estate sale, no trades please

So, where in the world do they get information like this?

I actually think its a cool shooter.... Interesting what they say about the witness markings, as that can't be true...

Ed

alanint · 10-13-2010, 11:15 AM

My guess would be that the tip of the takedown lever is more likely the head of a magazine release button.

Remember sellers will embellish any story to sell questionable goods. I was not even aware there was a gun shop on Miami Beach!

pisto · 10-16-2010, 03:33 PM

this take down lever is a cheap repro, " mim" metal injection mold , was sold over in some places like cds carbine discount ehrenreich. then it was polished and renumbered, using wrong dies.

10-13-2010, 09:44 AM	#1
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,195 Thanks: 1,413 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Odd Artillery Lugers on GB??? Just browsing GB for arty's on my day off, and noticed what I consider odd arty Lugers... Strangely shaped takedown lever??? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=195410591 Another clamshell arty holster??? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=195171906 American Eagle artillery??? W/grip safety & no stock lug??? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=195048939 I have no experience with artillery Lugers...Are these all representative examples??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

10-13-2010, 10:44 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	The first has been reblued, so the takedown lever is probably the result of a repair. The second has also been reblued in the past. Interesting combo, but can be assembled by anyone anywhere at any time The third is a parts gun. Note that the receiver is not notched. My best guess is that this started out as a normal commercial AE and that someone fitted an arty barrel. Note it has no notch for the rear sight.

10-13-2010, 10:49 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	#1 is a repaired takedown lever (looks to me like the end of a 1900 safety lever has been grafted onto the original takedown lever stub) #2 is a Riechsrevolver holster that has had an additional couple of inches added to the barrel section to accomodate an artillery pistol #3 is definitely a parts gun no matter what the seller says. The gun has been rebarreled with an artillery barrel. It appears to be a long frame upper receiver that has been faced off to the short length... So the answer to your questions is a definite NO, these are not representative of factory output... they are kludges... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-13-2010, 11:15 AM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	My guess would be that the tip of the takedown lever is more likely the head of a magazine release button. Remember sellers will embellish any story to sell questionable goods. I was not even aware there was a gun shop on Miami Beach!

10-16-2010, 03:33 PM	#6
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	this take down lever is a cheap repro, " mim" metal injection mold , was sold over in some places like cds carbine discount ehrenreich. then it was polished and renumbered, using wrong dies.