could someone tell me why no markings?

ssgdigital · 06-25-2010, 05:55 PM

I found this Luger online and the guy is interested in trading with me but he descriped the Luger and i'm confused.

DWMLuger In Excellent condition. Seems to be about 97%. has Gesichert on the safety and the number 14 on top of the slide. No other proofs, numbers, or markings on the gun

thanks,

SSG

Edward Tinker · 06-25-2010, 11:45 PM

Sean, we'd need to see pictures.

My gut feeling is that it is a commericial and the only markings would be a small crown N

You are expecting a military, which would be marked extensively...

Ed

ssgdigital · 06-26-2010, 07:32 AM

Yes there was number 14 and a crown. The gun is in about 97% looks very clean. I guess what I'm asking " is it worth about 900 in a trade?"

He has ended the auction so I can't get a picture now.

Edward Tinker · 06-26-2010, 08:57 AM

sorry, this is not enough information for me to tell you to spend $900

Ron Smith · 06-26-2010, 10:43 AM

Sean,

Without photos, it's hard to say what it is. If there are no markings, it could be re-finish with the proofs and markings removed in the process. If so, it's not worth $900. If the only number is a 14 on the toggle, sounds like a replaced toggle, or the other markings have been removed.

Ron

DavidJayUden · 06-26-2010, 02:44 PM

Was it a gunbroker auction? Most sites will let you search completed auctions, thus get the pictures.

ssgdigital · 06-26-2010, 06:40 PM

Norme · 06-26-2010, 06:52 PM

Hi Sean, This gun appears to have been heavily buffed and reblued. It is now in the "shooter" category, and is worth between $500.00 and $700.00 depending on the condition of the bore. Regards, Norm

Edward Tinker · 06-26-2010, 11:25 PM

agreed, its been buffed and reblued, better deals here on the forum. $600-$700 trade value; unless it comes with extra mags or holster

ssgdigital · 06-27-2010, 09:44 AM

So I can get one that is a good quality "shooter" on here from someone for 500? 'let the offers come rolling. What I'm wanting is one that is trustworthy to use as a carry gun.

Thanks
Shawn

sheepherder · 06-27-2010, 10:45 AM

Wow...they even reblued the mainspring???

Edward Tinker · 06-27-2010, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssgdigital

So I can get one that is a good quality "shooter" on here from someone for 500? 'let the offers come rolling. What I'm wanting is one that is trustworthy to use as a carry gun.

Thanks
Shawn

No one said that?

Do a search through the trader / for sale area and look.

But if you are willing to spend $900 then find a nice one for $900.

Do research and find out what kind of gun you want.

As I stated in another of your postings, I would never, ever carry a luger as a carry gun, they aren't relaible enough; not when you can get a gun more reliable for the same price.

ssgdigital · 06-27-2010, 04:28 PM

No it wouldn't be for an every day carry gun, but I work at a gun shop that requires you to carry a gun. I would like to bring a luger once in a while.

So they aren't considered reliable? I thought they would be reliable. Is there anything that can be done to one to make it reliable like having someone reworking it?

FYI: I carry a Glock.

I wasn't going to buy it outright, he was willing to trade for an H&K that I had.

Edward Tinker · 06-27-2010, 11:46 PM

All depends on the luger and the magazines. I have an artillery that shoots almost anything through it, and have had other lugers that were jam-omatics.

Just remember, if you use something to defend for your life, the papers will say "Nazi Luger used in Gun store shooting"

Doesn't mean that if I had a nice reliable one that i wouldn't do as you're saying. heck I have a pre-WW2 PP as a carry piece, same thing could be said about me. So, i will go be quiet

Ed

ssgdigital · 06-28-2010, 07:36 AM

very well put. I truly can see the headlines now.

LOL

06-25-2010, 05:55 PM	#1
ssgdigital User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	could someone tell me why no markings? I found this Luger online and the guy is interested in trading with me but he descriped the Luger and i'm confused. DWMLuger In Excellent condition. Seems to be about 97%. has Gesichert on the safety and the number 14 on top of the slide. No other proofs, numbers, or markings on the gun thanks, SSG

06-25-2010, 11:45 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Sean, we'd need to see pictures. My gut feeling is that it is a commericial and the only markings would be a small crown N You are expecting a military, which would be marked extensively... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-26-2010, 10:43 AM	#5
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Sean, Without photos, it's hard to say what it is. If there are no markings, it could be re-finish with the proofs and markings removed in the process. If so, it's not worth $900. If the only number is a 14 on the toggle, sounds like a replaced toggle, or the other markings have been removed. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-26-2010, 11:25 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	agreed, its been buffed and reblued, better deals here on the forum. $600-$700 trade value; unless it comes with extra mags or holster __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-27-2010, 10:45 AM	#11
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,440 Times in 2,328 Posts	Wow...they even reblued the mainspring??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

06-26-2010, 07:32 AM	#3
ssgdigital User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes there was number 14 and a crown. The gun is in about 97% looks very clean. I guess what I'm asking " is it worth about 900 in a trade?" He has ended the auction so I can't get a picture now.

06-26-2010, 08:57 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	sorry, this is not enough information for me to tell you to spend $900

06-26-2010, 02:44 PM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Was it a gunbroker auction? Most sites will let you search completed auctions, thus get the pictures.

06-26-2010, 06:40 PM	#7
ssgdigital User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

06-26-2010, 06:52 PM	#8
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Sean, This gun appears to have been heavily buffed and reblued. It is now in the "shooter" category, and is worth between $500.00 and $700.00 depending on the condition of the bore. Regards, Norm

06-27-2010, 09:44 AM	#10
ssgdigital User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So I can get one that is a good quality "shooter" on here from someone for 500? 'let the offers come rolling. What I'm wanting is one that is trustworthy to use as a carry gun. Thanks Shawn

06-27-2010, 04:28 PM	#13
ssgdigital User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No it wouldn't be for an every day carry gun, but I work at a gun shop that requires you to carry a gun. I would like to bring a luger once in a while. So they aren't considered reliable? I thought they would be reliable. Is there anything that can be done to one to make it reliable like having someone reworking it? FYI: I carry a Glock. I wasn't going to buy it outright, he was willing to trade for an H&K that I had.

06-27-2010, 11:46 PM	#14
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	All depends on the luger and the magazines. I have an artillery that shoots almost anything through it, and have had other lugers that were jam-omatics. Just remember, if you use something to defend for your life, the papers will say "Nazi Luger used in Gun store shooting" Doesn't mean that if I had a nice reliable one that i wouldn't do as you're saying. heck I have a pre-WW2 PP as a carry piece, same thing could be said about me. So, i will go be quiet Ed

06-28-2010, 07:36 AM	#15
ssgdigital User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	very well put. I truly can see the headlines now. LOL