Can someone help me ID this pistol(MORE PICS ADDED)

gjamison · 05-15-2010, 11:28 AM

I know this is not a luger but it is german and i figured someone on here could help out. I just got this today, It came with a holster and 2 mags with matching serial numbers. I looked in the blue book but couldn't find anything. Please help, any and all info would be great or where to find it. I was told to look on this forum by some of the people on the smith&wesson forum. thanks...

Ron Smith · 05-15-2010, 11:36 AM

Hi George,

Welcome to the forum. You have a very collectable and fairly scarce German Jäger Pistol. These were made from approx. 1914 thru 1917-18. About 13,000 were produced, and offered for private purchase to German Officers, who were required to buy their own sidearms.

Ron

Dwight Gruber · 05-15-2010, 11:56 AM

An excellent find, congratulations. Information about the Jäger pistol can be found in Central Powers Pistols by Jan Still.

--Dwight

Ron Wood · 05-15-2010, 12:50 PM

That is a terrific find and brings the total number of Jäger pistols reported to date to an even 90. Your gun has the added advantage of being one of only 25 with Imperial acceptance marks. And two matching magazines is also very rare (only 3 reported so far)!
Could we see a photo of the holster? Thanks.

gjamison · 05-15-2010, 01:31 PM

Thanks for all the help, more pics added

Ron Smith · 05-15-2010, 01:40 PM

The holster is a later WWII era Walther PP-PPK holster. If this pistol was used in WWII, as many early hand guns were. It could have been used as a replacement.

Here's a link to Mark Castell's web page showing his Jäger Pistol and Holster.

http://www.p38guns.com/Jager.htm

Rbrooks45 · 05-15-2010, 02:24 PM

I'm jealous. i have been looking for a good example of that pistol for about a year now. I have seen several that were not as nice. Good find.

pitsword · 05-15-2010, 05:28 PM

What is the caliber and Mag capacity. Thanks,
Pitsword

gjamison · 05-15-2010, 09:52 PM

.32 i think it's 7 round mags

Edward Tinker · 05-15-2010, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rbrooks45

I'm jealous. i have been looking for a good example of that pistol for about a year now. I have seen several that were not as nice. Good find.

A Reason sometimes to buy an example until a nicer one comes along.

Very nice example!

ed

gjamison · 05-16-2010, 06:47 AM

I would like to say thanks to everyone that has posted, This is all great infromation. I found this gun at an older friends house who is selling off all his gun's and ammo. I've already asked where it came from but he doesn't remember. I never thought i would find a gun with such history. In the very short time i have been on this forum you all have been very helpful, I'm a S&W guy but maybe I'll have to start looking at other German side arms. I would also add that i will be at the OGCA show next weekend and I am bring the Jager with me (just for show) row I table 5. Thanks again.....

gjamison · 05-22-2010, 06:55 AM

i just turned down $1500.00 for this. did i make a mistake...

alvin · 05-22-2010, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gjamison

i just turned down $1500.00 for this. did i make a mistake...

Don't know the book value of it. But $1500 for a rare gun in this shape sounds good. The problem is.... not because it's rare then you have to like it. So, not really a mistake IMO, unless you really like it. Otherwise, $1500 have much more use than a C&R pistol.

Rbrooks45 · 05-22-2010, 09:22 AM

$1500.00 is a good price, I would offer the same. Herman Historica (German auchion sight) normallyy gets between 800 - 1200 euros for good examples.

If you do wish to sell it keep me in mind

Ron Wood · 05-22-2010, 11:57 AM

As Rbrooks45 has stated, $1500 is a good price for such a scarce gun...two matching magazines and Imperial acceptance really puts that icing on the cake. But, as Alvin has pointed out, it has highly specialized collector appeal so there is a limited buyer population. It is a collector's prize and would easily bring $1500 and more to the right buyer, but the "right" buyer may not be readily available in the current economic crunch. For myself, I would hang on to it. But again, as Alvin has also said, you have to like it more than what else $1500 could buy. Good luck on whatever you decide to do.

gjamison · 05-24-2010, 06:13 AM

Sold $2300

Don M · 05-24-2010, 08:57 AM

Looks like you found the right buyer. Congratulations.

Lugerdoc · 05-24-2010, 10:20 AM

The most amazing thing to me about the Jager, is the way it was designed and assembled. Most of it's parts were stamped out; way ahead of it's time. You have to disassemble one, to fully appreciate the design. TH

Ron Wood · 05-24-2010, 11:28 AM

I envy the person that invested $2300, they got a superior item and at that price level they obviously are a collector and not looking for a quick resale profit. Congratulations to you George, I think you did well on the sale.

Edward Tinker · 05-24-2010, 12:29 PM

Always a mixture of gladness to sell for a good price and sadness that you sold it.

But, most of us, can't have everything

opps, sorry, no alcohol for the next year

05-15-2010, 11:28 AM	#1
gjamison User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can someone help me ID this pistol(MORE PICS ADDED) I know this is not a luger but it is german and i figured someone on here could help out. I just got this today, It came with a holster and 2 mags with matching serial numbers. I looked in the blue book but couldn't find anything. Please help, any and all info would be great or where to find it. I was told to look on this forum by some of the people on the smith&wesson forum. thanks... Last edited by gjamison; 05-15-2010 at 01:33 PM.

05-15-2010, 11:36 AM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hi George, Welcome to the forum. You have a very collectable and fairly scarce German Jäger Pistol. These were made from approx. 1914 thru 1917-18. About 13,000 were produced, and offered for private purchase to German Officers, who were required to buy their own sidearms. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

05-15-2010, 12:50 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	That is a terrific find and brings the total number of Jäger pistols reported to date to an even 90. Your gun has the added advantage of being one of only 25 with Imperial acceptance marks. And two matching magazines is also very rare (only 3 reported so far)! Could we see a photo of the holster? Thanks. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-15-2010, 01:40 PM	#6
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	The holster is a later WWII era Walther PP-PPK holster. If this pistol was used in WWII, as many early hand guns were. It could have been used as a replacement. Here's a link to Mark Castell's web page showing his Jäger Pistol and Holster. http://www.p38guns.com/Jager.htm __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

05-22-2010, 11:57 AM	#15
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	As Rbrooks45 has stated, $1500 is a good price for such a scarce gun...two matching magazines and Imperial acceptance really puts that icing on the cake. But, as Alvin has pointed out, it has highly specialized collector appeal so there is a limited buyer population. It is a collector's prize and would easily bring $1500 and more to the right buyer, but the "right" buyer may not be readily available in the current economic crunch. For myself, I would hang on to it. But again, as Alvin has also said, you have to like it more than what else $1500 could buy. Good luck on whatever you decide to do. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-15-2010, 11:56 AM	#3
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	An excellent find, congratulations. Information about the Jäger pistol can be found in Central Powers Pistols by Jan Still. --Dwight

05-15-2010, 01:31 PM	#5
gjamison User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for all the help, more pics added

05-15-2010, 02:24 PM	#7
Rbrooks45 User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I'm jealous. i have been looking for a good example of that pistol for about a year now. I have seen several that were not as nice. Good find.

05-15-2010, 05:28 PM	#8
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 459 Thanks: 3,964 Thanked 103 Times in 83 Posts	What is the caliber and Mag capacity. Thanks, Pitsword

05-15-2010, 09:52 PM	#9
gjamison User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	.32 i think it's 7 round mags

05-16-2010, 06:47 AM	#11
gjamison User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I would like to say thanks to everyone that has posted, This is all great infromation. I found this gun at an older friends house who is selling off all his gun's and ammo. I've already asked where it came from but he doesn't remember. I never thought i would find a gun with such history. In the very short time i have been on this forum you all have been very helpful, I'm a S&W guy but maybe I'll have to start looking at other German side arms. I would also add that i will be at the OGCA show next weekend and I am bring the Jager with me (just for show) row I table 5. Thanks again.....

05-22-2010, 06:55 AM	#12
gjamison User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i just turned down $1500.00 for this. did i make a mistake...

05-22-2010, 09:22 AM	#14
Rbrooks45 User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	$1500.00 is a good price, I would offer the same. Herman Historica (German auchion sight) normallyy gets between 800 - 1200 euros for good examples. If you do wish to sell it keep me in mind

05-24-2010, 06:13 AM	#16
gjamison User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sold $2300

05-24-2010, 08:57 AM	#17
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Looks like you found the right buyer. Congratulations. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

05-24-2010, 10:20 AM	#18
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	The most amazing thing to me about the Jager, is the way it was designed and assembled. Most of it's parts were stamped out; way ahead of it's time. You have to disassemble one, to fully appreciate the design. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

05-24-2010, 11:28 AM	#19
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	I envy the person that invested $2300, they got a superior item and at that price level they obviously are a collector and not looking for a quick resale profit. Congratulations to you George, I think you did well on the sale. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-24-2010, 12:29 PM	#20
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	Always a mixture of gladness to sell for a good price and sadness that you sold it. But, most of us, can't have everything opps, sorry, no alcohol for the next year