BKIW / DWM vintage .30 luger box

Vlim · 04-05-2010, 12:19 PM

Got this box in last week. It was a bit of a restoration project as it literally fell apart.

These boxes don't show up that often so I was quite happy finding one, even in the acquired state. This is the result after some restoration and conservation work.

The name on the sides (Berlin Karlsruher Industriewerke AG, vormals Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken) help to date the box between June, 1933 and June 1936. A 'GERMANY' rubber stamp marking at the bottom shows that it was most likely an export box intended for the US.

Edward Tinker · 04-05-2010, 03:04 PM

I'll take it!

oh, this isn't in the for sale section?

Very cool,

ed

mrerick · 04-05-2010, 08:40 PM

History in your hand!!! Remarkable.

What activities did DWM carry out in Karlsruhe? I have relatives nearby and have visited the area a few times...

Marc

lugerholsterrepair · 04-05-2010, 08:44 PM

Gerben, A remarkable box! Rare to be sure. These should be preserved as best you can.

Jerry Burney

Vlim · 04-06-2010, 12:45 PM

@Marc,

DWM's Karlsruhe branch was specialized in the production of ammunition and ammunition and packaging production machines. During the imperial years they produced large calibre shells with the 'Patronenfabrik Karlsruhe' headstamp, as well as small arms ammunition.

A large part of their production facility is still standing today, but it is in use as a museum and cultural centre.

Enough history to see around Karlsruhe as well: RWS/GeCo/Dynamit Nobel had their small arms ammunition production plant near Durlach. All that remains of that plant is the 'Schrott-turm' a tower once used to cast lead pellets for shotshells.

policeluger · 04-07-2010, 06:43 PM

Ed, computer is acting up may be hard to get a hold of, but I have two bottom only boxes, one full, one 3/4 full.....offers??

Vlim · 04-08-2010, 02:18 PM

Interesting,

The bottom should have rubber stamp markings, usually a 3-digit number with some letter codes. Do you want to check whether your bottom-only boxes have legible markings (and tell what they are)?

We are trying to figure out the manufacture / dating codes of DWM/BKIW in the 1920s and 30s.

04-05-2010, 12:19 PM	#1
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,047 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,947 Times in 1,198 Posts	BKIW / DWM vintage .30 luger box Got this box in last week. It was a bit of a restoration project as it literally fell apart. These boxes don't show up that often so I was quite happy finding one, even in the acquired state. This is the result after some restoration and conservation work. The name on the sides (Berlin Karlsruher Industriewerke AG, vormals Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken) help to date the box between June, 1933 and June 1936. A 'GERMANY' rubber stamp marking at the bottom shows that it was most likely an export box intended for the US. Attached Thumbnails

04-05-2010, 03:04 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	I'll take it! oh, this isn't in the for sale section? Very cool, ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-05-2010, 08:44 PM	#4
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Gerben, A remarkable box! Rare to be sure. These should be preserved as best you can. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

04-05-2010, 08:40 PM	#3
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	History in your hand!!! Remarkable. What activities did DWM carry out in Karlsruhe? I have relatives nearby and have visited the area a few times... Marc

04-06-2010, 12:45 PM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,047 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,947 Times in 1,198 Posts	@Marc, DWM's Karlsruhe branch was specialized in the production of ammunition and ammunition and packaging production machines. During the imperial years they produced large calibre shells with the 'Patronenfabrik Karlsruhe' headstamp, as well as small arms ammunition. A large part of their production facility is still standing today, but it is in use as a museum and cultural centre. Enough history to see around Karlsruhe as well: RWS/GeCo/Dynamit Nobel had their small arms ammunition production plant near Durlach. All that remains of that plant is the 'Schrott-turm' a tower once used to cast lead pellets for shotshells.

04-07-2010, 06:43 PM	#6
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Ed, computer is acting up may be hard to get a hold of, but I have two bottom only boxes, one full, one 3/4 full.....offers??

04-08-2010, 02:18 PM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,047 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,947 Times in 1,198 Posts	Interesting, The bottom should have rubber stamp markings, usually a 3-digit number with some letter codes. Do you want to check whether your bottom-only boxes have legible markings (and tell what they are)? We are trying to figure out the manufacture / dating codes of DWM/BKIW in the 1920s and 30s.