DWM Alphabet commercial????

lypet · 02-23-2009, 03:56 PM

I pick this one up at a gun show this weekend. (Had to do something about that 13 thing.) It was billed as a 1920 commercial which is now called the DWM Alphabet commercial completely refinished. I am not sure what it is, so I am consulting the experts. First the only serial numbers left on it are on the front of the frame (5065 no suffix and a 53 on the hold-open lever. The upper screams DWM Alphabet commercial with the Crown N proof on the blank receiver and front toggle, but the frame has me questioning that. Rather than describe it, I'll let pictures speak for it.

Thanks for any help.
Lynn

drbuster · 02-23-2009, 10:02 PM

Nice shooter! I think the frame is of Erfurt manufacture.

lypet · 02-26-2009, 05:01 PM

This proof mark (it looks to be Cf) and the fact it does not have a stock lug makes me wonder.

The other question is: Since the ATF considers the frame to be the gun, When you have a mismatched like this, do I book it as a 20 DWM or whatever the frame turns out to be?

By the way, it is a 30.

Lynn

Lugerdoc · 02-27-2009, 08:23 AM

I agree that the frame is a pre 1914 Erfurt, which could have been reworked into a commerical during the 1920s, but certainly not a new production Alpha commerical. TH

02-23-2009, 03:56 PM	#1
lypet User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: MN Posts: 33 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	DWM Alphabet commercial???? I pick this one up at a gun show this weekend. (Had to do something about that 13 thing.) It was billed as a 1920 commercial which is now called the DWM Alphabet commercial completely refinished. I am not sure what it is, so I am consulting the experts. First the only serial numbers left on it are on the front of the frame (5065 no suffix and a 53 on the hold-open lever. The upper screams DWM Alphabet commercial with the Crown N proof on the blank receiver and front toggle, but the frame has me questioning that. Rather than describe it, I'll let pictures speak for it. Thanks for any help. Lynn Attached Thumbnails

02-26-2009, 05:01 PM	#3
lypet User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: MN Posts: 33 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	This proof mark (it looks to be Cf) and the fact it does not have a stock lug makes me wonder. The other question is: Since the ATF considers the frame to be the gun, When you have a mismatched like this, do I book it as a 20 DWM or whatever the frame turns out to be? By the way, it is a 30. Lynn Attached Thumbnails

02-27-2009, 08:23 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	I agree that the frame is a pre 1914 Erfurt, which could have been reworked into a commerical during the 1920s, but certainly not a new production Alpha commerical. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-23-2009, 10:02 PM	#2
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Nice shooter! I think the frame is of Erfurt manufacture.