Just bought a Persian Artillery and good reference book

Imperial Arms · 04-23-2008, 01:53 AM

Hello Edward

The first time I heard comments about the leather on the rig, it was mentioned that the leather was possibly from pigskin, but how could a manufacturer sell a product made from a pig to a Muslim country whose people dislike pigs? When I eventually chatted with George on the subject of Persian rigs, that is when he told me that the holster was likely made of goat skin, and it sure does smells like goat!

I suppose that the LP-08 rigs where supplied to Persia with rigs similar to those equipped with the Imperial LP-08 Lugers. I have no explanation why a single rig has not yet surfaced which appears to be original and correct. Did the Mauser factory sell the LP-08 model without a rig, and was the pistol suppose to be equipped only with a belt holster made of leather? A possible theory - when Mauser supplied the Persian contract, the company may have had extra barrels left over in inventory from WWI and the Weimar period (do not forget about the Stoeger Lugers as well) and decided to use these spare barrels to fulfill a contract for the P-08 and LP-08 models, both these foreign sales occurring around the same time period (1934).

The item on the rig which is a 'dead giveaway' that proves that it is not of German manufacture or origin is the magazine pouch - everything on it is wrong from the closing strap to the leather loop on the rear of the pouch for mounting on the strap. Furthermore, the construction of these magazine pouches are s*** and they would have never been produced by a German leather workshop. When these rigs were made in Pakistan, I suppose that the British dealer had asked a Pakistani workshop (which could make anything for cheap prices) to follow a design/concept based on an Imperial German Navy rig (notice the carrying hook on the strap) for the Persian rigs, which as we observe, was NOT used on a LP-08 pistol which was originally made/designed for Army use. It is very likely that the British dealer was just filling the gap for what he thought was missing. Considering that the British have had good business relations with Pakistan, it was a good choice to have the rigs made in Pakistan which is close to Iran. Notice that the so-called rigs have the serial number stamped on the wood near the attaching iron which in also wrong. If the Mauser factory was able to stamp serial numbers on the pistols, therefore, they should have been able to stamp a serial number on the attaching iron itself - no exception to standard practice.

Returning to the topic I mentioned above regarding the Stoeger Lugers, the LP-08 model was not sold with rigs, but the rigs were listed as accessories which might have come from German military surplus, or offered by an American company such as Pacific Arms.

Albert

04-23-2008, 01:53 AM	#1
Imperial Arms Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 579 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Hello Edward The first time I heard comments about the leather on the rig, it was mentioned that the leather was possibly from pigskin, but how could a manufacturer sell a product made from a pig to a Muslim country whose people dislike pigs? When I eventually chatted with George on the subject of Persian rigs, that is when he told me that the holster was likely made of goat skin, and it sure does smells like goat! I suppose that the LP-08 rigs where supplied to Persia with rigs similar to those equipped with the Imperial LP-08 Lugers. I have no explanation why a single rig has not yet surfaced which appears to be original and correct. Did the Mauser factory sell the LP-08 model without a rig, and was the pistol suppose to be equipped only with a belt holster made of leather? A possible theory - when Mauser supplied the Persian contract, the company may have had extra barrels left over in inventory from WWI and the Weimar period (do not forget about the Stoeger Lugers as well) and decided to use these spare barrels to fulfill a contract for the P-08 and LP-08 models, both these foreign sales occurring around the same time period (1934). The item on the rig which is a 'dead giveaway' that proves that it is not of German manufacture or origin is the magazine pouch - everything on it is wrong from the closing strap to the leather loop on the rear of the pouch for mounting on the strap. Furthermore, the construction of these magazine pouches are s*** and they would have never been produced by a German leather workshop. When these rigs were made in Pakistan, I suppose that the British dealer had asked a Pakistani workshop (which could make anything for cheap prices) to follow a design/concept based on an Imperial German Navy rig (notice the carrying hook on the strap) for the Persian rigs, which as we observe, was NOT used on a LP-08 pistol which was originally made/designed for Army use. It is very likely that the British dealer was just filling the gap for what he thought was missing. Considering that the British have had good business relations with Pakistan, it was a good choice to have the rigs made in Pakistan which is close to Iran. Notice that the so-called rigs have the serial number stamped on the wood near the attaching iron which in also wrong. If the Mauser factory was able to stamp serial numbers on the pistols, therefore, they should have been able to stamp a serial number on the attaching iron itself - no exception to standard practice. Returning to the topic I mentioned above regarding the Stoeger Lugers, the LP-08 model was not sold with rigs, but the rigs were listed as accessories which might have come from German military surplus, or offered by an American company such as Pacific Arms. Albert