Please Help me date my luger

drewdog · 12-20-2007, 08:04 PM

My Grandfather passed down a German Luger to me before his death, and I have no idea what date or model it is please help. I have more pics if needed. Thanks for your help.

Edward Tinker · 12-20-2007, 08:14 PM

Drew, welcome to the forum. They made lugers for almost 50 years, plus many manufacturers, so we need more info and mroe pictures.

whats on the toggle?

any date on it?

what is the serial number, PLUS the suffix if it has one?

welcome to the forum, i used to live in Palouse till we moved to the Denver area.

also, include photos of the holster (is there a tool inside the little pouch inside of the holster?)

Ed

drewdog · 12-21-2007, 08:17 PM

Wow, guys thanks for the quick response! I don't know many of the terms to all the parts of the gun, but I do know the serial numbers on the gun match all match as well as with the clip. The serial number is 36503 (Germany) I took some more pictures so you can see the gun better. It was hard getting good pics. The part on the handle of the gun is part of the safety mechanism. Thanks again!

drewdog · 12-21-2007, 08:18 PM

Another

drewdog · 12-21-2007, 08:18 PM

And another

drewdog · 12-21-2007, 08:20 PM

If you like a picture of something specific let me know.
Thanks again
Drewdog

Edward Tinker · 12-21-2007, 08:35 PM

Drew is it nickle plated? (if so, none ever left the factory like that, and to many collectors the value would be about half as compared to a collector piece)

It appears to be a 1906 model American Eagle.

Is it 9mm or 7.65mm (30 luger)?
If you don't know, see if you have a pencil, if it drops down the bore its a 9mm, if it is slightly tight a 30 luger (at least thats what i've read

)

Include a full left, full right, of the pistol and a picture of the back of the holster and try not to make the size as small, I'm over 40 and eyes are worser than they used to be

Ed

MFC · 12-22-2007, 01:32 AM

Drew,
You stated that it is all matching as well as the clip. Is the wood bottom of the clip/magazine also numbered to the gun? They were almost never numbered on commercials. Notice I said (almost) never.
Mike C.

Dwight Gruber · 12-22-2007, 12:32 PM

Drew,

By serial number, your 1906 model Luger was probably made in the time frame of late 1907 to early 1908. The barrel lenth and style suggests that it is in .30 cal.

In addition to confirming the caliber, could you please report if the gun has crown-over-letter proofs on the left side of the receiver and underneath the barrel?

--Dwight

drewdog · 12-22-2007, 06:06 PM

Hey guys, I appreciate all of your interest in helping me date this gun. I'm doing my best to answer the previous questions. My dad tells me its a 30 cal luger. The wood bottom clip number is 6503 with a couple markings on it. One marking looks like a + sign, and I don't understand the other. I am adding additional pics to show you all. Thanks again, and Dwight I don't see the crown proofs that you mentioned.

drewdog · 12-22-2007, 06:07 PM

Another

drewdog · 12-22-2007, 06:07 PM

!

drewdog · 12-22-2007, 06:09 PM

A Little Eagle on the inside of the holster

MFC · 12-23-2007, 12:07 AM

Sounds like a military mag. that someone mated to the gun. I understand why though... 36503--6503.
Mike C.

12-20-2007, 08:04 PM	#1
drewdog User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Please Help me date my luger My Grandfather passed down a German Luger to me before his death, and I have no idea what date or model it is please help. I have more pics if needed. Thanks for your help. Attached Images

12-20-2007, 08:14 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	Drew, welcome to the forum. They made lugers for almost 50 years, plus many manufacturers, so we need more info and mroe pictures. whats on the toggle? any date on it? what is the serial number, PLUS the suffix if it has one? welcome to the forum, i used to live in Palouse till we moved to the Denver area. also, include photos of the holster (is there a tool inside the little pouch inside of the holster?) Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-21-2007, 08:17 PM	#3
drewdog User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow, guys thanks for the quick response! I don't know many of the terms to all the parts of the gun, but I do know the serial numbers on the gun match all match as well as with the clip. The serial number is 36503 (Germany) I took some more pictures so you can see the gun better. It was hard getting good pics. The part on the handle of the gun is part of the safety mechanism. Thanks again! Attached Images

12-21-2007, 08:18 PM	#4
drewdog User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another Attached Images

12-21-2007, 08:18 PM	#5
drewdog User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	And another Attached Images

12-21-2007, 08:20 PM	#6
drewdog User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you like a picture of something specific let me know. Thanks again Drewdog Attached Images

12-21-2007, 08:35 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	Drew is it nickle plated? (if so, none ever left the factory like that, and to many collectors the value would be about half as compared to a collector piece) It appears to be a 1906 model American Eagle. Is it 9mm or 7.65mm (30 luger)? If you don't know, see if you have a pencil, if it drops down the bore its a 9mm, if it is slightly tight a 30 luger (at least thats what i've read ) Include a full left, full right, of the pistol and a picture of the back of the holster and try not to make the size as small, I'm over 40 and eyes are worser than they used to be Ed

12-22-2007, 01:32 AM	#8
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Drew, You stated that it is all matching as well as the clip. Is the wood bottom of the clip/magazine also numbered to the gun? They were almost never numbered on commercials. Notice I said (almost) never. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

12-22-2007, 12:32 PM	#9
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	Drew, By serial number, your 1906 model Luger was probably made in the time frame of late 1907 to early 1908. The barrel lenth and style suggests that it is in .30 cal. In addition to confirming the caliber, could you please report if the gun has crown-over-letter proofs on the left side of the receiver and underneath the barrel? --Dwight

12-22-2007, 06:06 PM	#10
drewdog User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey guys, I appreciate all of your interest in helping me date this gun. I'm doing my best to answer the previous questions. My dad tells me its a 30 cal luger. The wood bottom clip number is 6503 with a couple markings on it. One marking looks like a + sign, and I don't understand the other. I am adding additional pics to show you all. Thanks again, and Dwight I don't see the crown proofs that you mentioned. Attached Thumbnails

12-22-2007, 06:07 PM	#11
drewdog User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another Attached Thumbnails

12-22-2007, 06:07 PM	#12
drewdog User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	! Attached Thumbnails

12-22-2007, 06:09 PM	#13
drewdog User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	A Little Eagle on the inside of the holster Attached Thumbnails

12-23-2007, 12:07 AM	#14
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Sounds like a military mag. that someone mated to the gun. I understand why though... 36503--6503. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.