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the gunman · 08-20-2007, 08:05 PM

Damn Don't look Like Im A Gona Sell That Junker. Have no idea I even had the damn thing.
Think Old Tac is right.

Alx · 09-06-2007, 01:24 AM

LugerDoc,
You are correct in assessment of the large frame Erma Luger .22 guns, like the La22, Ep22, etc.
However the smaller frame KGP series, the KGP69 is a great little gun, feeds reliably and is accurate. A much better made gun, you can feel the weight / size ratio difference. The KGP69 Erma is also much closer in shape to the original P08, just smaller.

That is a cat-hair on the gun, not a crack, in my lousy picture.

Alx · 09-06-2007, 06:41 AM

Tac, I have four of these KGP69, and would rather think of them as all steel, but actually I believe the frame is alloy, maybe a denser alloy of aluminum, and painted. The gun is just as heavy or heavier than the La/Ep22 size Erma, but it has more parts, a true hold-open, and a magazine safety that works.
One of my KGP69 guns has some edge wear and a slightly peened area on the frame, that show thru to the metal and I really don't think it is steel.
I will try the magnet test tonight, and re-post or edit to confirm.
If alloy, it still must be denser, have a better mix, or be thicker. One thing, is I believe the larger Erma's have an aluminum barrel and steel bore-sleeve, IIRC. The KGP69 barrel is all steel, I'm sure.

08-20-2007, 08:05 PM	#21
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Damn Don't look Like Im A Gona Sell That Junker. Have no idea I even had the damn thing. Think Old Tac is right.

09-06-2007, 01:24 AM	#22
Alx User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nashville, Tennessee area Posts: 263 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	LugerDoc, You are correct in assessment of the large frame Erma Luger .22 guns, like the La22, Ep22, etc. However the smaller frame KGP series, the KGP69 is a great little gun, feeds reliably and is accurate. A much better made gun, you can feel the weight / size ratio difference. The KGP69 Erma is also much closer in shape to the original P08, just smaller. That is a cat-hair on the gun, not a crack, in my lousy picture.

09-06-2007, 06:41 AM	#23
Alx User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nashville, Tennessee area Posts: 263 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Tac, I have four of these KGP69, and would rather think of them as all steel, but actually I believe the frame is alloy, maybe a denser alloy of aluminum, and painted. The gun is just as heavy or heavier than the La/Ep22 size Erma, but it has more parts, a true hold-open, and a magazine safety that works. One of my KGP69 guns has some edge wear and a slightly peened area on the frame, that show thru to the metal and I really don't think it is steel. I will try the magnet test tonight, and re-post or edit to confirm. If alloy, it still must be denser, have a better mix, or be thicker. One thing, is I believe the larger Erma's have an aluminum barrel and steel bore-sleeve, IIRC. The KGP69 barrel is all steel, I'm sure.