Star marked barrel

jamguitarist · 03-04-2016, 08:12 AM

I'm looking at a mismatched Luger, 42/1940, that seems to have a replacement barrel. The only marking on it is a 5 point star stamped on the top. The only Luger association I know with that is the East Indies Lugers. I do not have pictures yet. No import marks. Any info would be appreciated.

Mac Cat · 03-04-2016, 10:00 AM

get a photo !
The 5-point star was for re-worked guns.
Even with mis-matched parts it could be interesting.

jamguitarist · 03-04-2016, 12:14 PM

I'm getting it after work today. I'll take some pics then. It is matching, except the barrel and the take down "pin". Three digit serial. Eagle/655 marks. Also come with "the original holster" it is a real 1941 holster, I don't believe it to be original to the gun.

Sergio Natali · 03-04-2016, 12:22 PM

A five pointed star was stamped on rejected Krieghoffs too, although an East Indies Luger I'm sure hasn't much to do with Krieghoff.
We would need some close up pictures please.

Best.

jamguitarist · 03-04-2016, 12:40 PM

I realize I was very unclear in my original post. The Luger is marked 42 on top of the toggle and E/655 on the side of slide. All numbers match except the takedown. The barrel though has no marks except the star on top.

jamguitarist · 03-05-2016, 03:30 PM

I forgot to take a picture

I did put it on layaway though and will post pictures when I pick it up.

Balder · 03-05-2016, 07:42 PM

This star is under the barrel of my Mauser C96, right in front of the chamber.

Balder

jamguitarist · 03-05-2016, 07:57 PM

Looks just like that.

alvin · 03-05-2016, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balder

This star is under the barrel of my Mauser C96, right in front of the chamber.

This star must carry different meaning from the star on Lugers. It's not a rework indicator. It associated with Red 9 barrel, probably used as an indicator to tell it's a 9x19mm barrel. None of thousands of various kinds of 7.63mm barrels that I have met having this, and none of hundreds of 9mm barrels that I have met not having this. If that's indeed the way it is, then, this star was still related with a change, a factory change in this context.

Jack Lawman · 03-05-2016, 11:37 PM

I just photographed an Imperial accepted 7.63 C96 for a dealer friend. It's in the 284K range. It's all matching except locking block and has the star.

Balder · 03-06-2016, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvin

This star must carry different meaning from the star on Lugers. It's not a rework indicator. It associated with Red 9 barrel, probably used as an indicator to tell it's a 9x19mm barrel. None of thousands of various kinds of 7.63mm barrels that I have met having this, and none of hundreds of 9mm barrels that I have met not having this. If that's indeed the way it is, then, this star was still related with a change, a factory change in this context.

Alvin,

My C96 is in 7.63 x 25 (.30 Luger). All matching, serial # 2919XX

Balder

alvin · 03-06-2016, 06:15 AM

Thanks for the pictures. So, the star is still a myth. It's associated with 1916-1918 wartime made pistols. As a very generic marking, it probably associated with certain barrel acceptance procedure.

DonVoigt · 03-06-2016, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balder

Alvin,

My C96 is in 7.63 x 25 (.30 Luger). All matching, serial # 2919XX

Balder

Many 1896 Mausers have a star on the bottom of the barrel,
likely the mark of some inspector, JMHO. In my experience, it is not found on just 9mms.

abukafura · 03-06-2016, 12:38 PM

So true. It is found on 7.63mm guns as well. I have two BHs with such stars under the barrel.

jamguitarist · 03-06-2016, 01:12 PM

Yes, but what about stars on P08 barrels

Mac Cat · 03-07-2016, 12:22 AM

Also, I think the two stars on these C96 barrels were six pointed.
He's asked about a 5 pointed star, in particular.

Nomadr · 03-08-2016, 11:58 PM

The M-star is very common on C96 barrels. FWIW my 1910 Mauser side latch also has the star stamping. Would have to check if it's 5 or 6 pointed.

Bob

jamguitarist · 03-12-2016, 06:16 PM

Pics of the barrel markings

tenbears · 03-13-2016, 04:28 PM

Enclosed are pictures of a star on the spine of a S9805 bayonet. I have had this bayonet for many years and the star still remains a mystery. I have seen it on other edge weapons.

jamguitarist · 03-13-2016, 05:56 PM

There is also a 5, and what appears to be an R and a script J on the bottom of the barrel. I have yet to find anything on these markings.

03-04-2016, 08:12 AM	#1
jamguitarist User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Star marked barrel I'm looking at a mismatched Luger, 42/1940, that seems to have a replacement barrel. The only marking on it is a 5 point star stamped on the top. The only Luger association I know with that is the East Indies Lugers. I do not have pictures yet. No import marks. Any info would be appreciated. Last edited by jamguitarist; 03-04-2016 at 12:43 PM.

03-04-2016, 12:22 PM	#4
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	A five pointed star was stamped on rejected Krieghoffs too, although an East Indies Luger I'm sure hasn't much to do with Krieghoff. We would need some close up pictures please. Best. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

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03-04-2016, 10:00 AM	#2
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 769 Thanks: 2,189 Thanked 656 Times in 350 Posts	get a photo ! The 5-point star was for re-worked guns. Even with mis-matched parts it could be interesting.

03-04-2016, 12:14 PM	#3
jamguitarist User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	I'm getting it after work today. I'll take some pics then. It is matching, except the barrel and the take down "pin". Three digit serial. Eagle/655 marks. Also come with "the original holster" it is a real 1941 holster, I don't believe it to be original to the gun.

03-04-2016, 12:40 PM	#5
jamguitarist User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	I realize I was very unclear in my original post. The Luger is marked 42 on top of the toggle and E/655 on the side of slide. All numbers match except the takedown. The barrel though has no marks except the star on top.

03-05-2016, 03:30 PM	#6
jamguitarist User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	I forgot to take a picture I did put it on layaway though and will post pictures when I pick it up.

03-05-2016, 07:42 PM	#7
Balder User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 288 Thanks: 20 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts	This star is under the barrel of my Mauser C96, right in front of the chamber. Balder

03-05-2016, 07:57 PM	#8
jamguitarist User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Looks just like that.

03-06-2016, 06:15 AM	#12
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Thanks for the pictures. So, the star is still a myth. It's associated with 1916-1918 wartime made pistols. As a very generic marking, it probably associated with certain barrel acceptance procedure.

03-06-2016, 12:38 PM	#14
abukafura Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northeast Wisconsin, near Greeen Bay Posts: 327 Thanks: 1,314 Thanked 90 Times in 57 Posts	So true. It is found on 7.63mm guns as well. I have two BHs with such stars under the barrel.

03-06-2016, 01:12 PM	#15
jamguitarist User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Yes, but what about stars on P08 barrels

03-07-2016, 12:22 AM	#16
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 769 Thanks: 2,189 Thanked 656 Times in 350 Posts	Also, I think the two stars on these C96 barrels were six pointed. He's asked about a 5 pointed star, in particular.

03-08-2016, 11:58 PM	#17
Nomadr Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 276 Thanks: 16 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts	The M-star is very common on C96 barrels. FWIW my 1910 Mauser side latch also has the star stamping. Would have to check if it's 5 or 6 pointed. Bob

03-13-2016, 05:56 PM	#20
jamguitarist User Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	There is also a 5, and what appears to be an R and a script J on the bottom of the barrel. I have yet to find anything on these markings.