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jamguitarist 03-04-2016 08:12 AM

Star marked barrel
 
I'm looking at a mismatched Luger, 42/1940, that seems to have a replacement barrel. The only marking on it is a 5 point star stamped on the top. The only Luger association I know with that is the East Indies Lugers. I do not have pictures yet. No import marks. Any info would be appreciated.

Mac Cat 03-04-2016 10:00 AM

get a photo !
The 5-point star was for re-worked guns.
Even with mis-matched parts it could be interesting.

jamguitarist 03-04-2016 12:14 PM

I'm getting it after work today. I'll take some pics then. It is matching, except the barrel and the take down "pin". Three digit serial. Eagle/655 marks. Also come with "the original holster" it is a real 1941 holster, I don't believe it to be original to the gun.

Sergio Natali 03-04-2016 12:22 PM

A five pointed star was stamped on rejected Krieghoffs too, although an East Indies Luger I'm sure hasn't much to do with Krieghoff.
We would need some close up pictures please.

Best.

jamguitarist 03-04-2016 12:40 PM

I realize I was very unclear in my original post. The Luger is marked 42 on top of the toggle and E/655 on the side of slide. All numbers match except the takedown. The barrel though has no marks except the star on top.

jamguitarist 03-05-2016 03:30 PM

I forgot to take a picture :( I did put it on layaway though and will post pictures when I pick it up.

Balder 03-05-2016 07:42 PM

This star is under the barrel of my Mauser C96, right in front of the chamber.

Balder

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...relmarking.jpg

jamguitarist 03-05-2016 07:57 PM

Looks just like that.

alvin 03-05-2016 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balder (Post 285176)
This star is under the barrel of my Mauser C96, right in front of the chamber.

This star must carry different meaning from the star on Lugers. It's not a rework indicator. It associated with Red 9 barrel, probably used as an indicator to tell it's a 9x19mm barrel. None of thousands of various kinds of 7.63mm barrels that I have met having this, and none of hundreds of 9mm barrels that I have met not having this. If that's indeed the way it is, then, this star was still related with a change, a factory change in this context.

Jack Lawman 03-05-2016 11:37 PM

7.63 c96
 
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I just photographed an Imperial accepted 7.63 C96 for a dealer friend. It's in the 284K range. It's all matching except locking block and has the star.

Balder 03-06-2016 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvin (Post 285185)
This star must carry different meaning from the star on Lugers. It's not a rework indicator. It associated with Red 9 barrel, probably used as an indicator to tell it's a 9x19mm barrel. None of thousands of various kinds of 7.63mm barrels that I have met having this, and none of hundreds of 9mm barrels that I have met not having this. If that's indeed the way it is, then, this star was still related with a change, a factory change in this context.

Alvin,

My C96 is in 7.63 x 25 (.30 Luger). All matching, serial # 2919XX

Balder

alvin 03-06-2016 06:15 AM

Thanks for the pictures. So, the star is still a myth. It's associated with 1916-1918 wartime made pistols. As a very generic marking, it probably associated with certain barrel acceptance procedure.

DonVoigt 03-06-2016 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balder (Post 285191)
Alvin,

My C96 is in 7.63 x 25 (.30 Luger). All matching, serial # 2919XX

Balder

Many 1896 Mausers have a star on the bottom of the barrel,
likely the mark of some inspector, JMHO. In my experience, it is not found on just 9mms.

abukafura 03-06-2016 12:38 PM

So true. It is found on 7.63mm guns as well. I have two BHs with such stars under the barrel.

jamguitarist 03-06-2016 01:12 PM

Yes, but what about stars on P08 barrels :)

Mac Cat 03-07-2016 12:22 AM

Also, I think the two stars on these C96 barrels were six pointed.
He's asked about a 5 pointed star, in particular.

Nomadr 03-08-2016 11:58 PM

The M-star is very common on C96 barrels. FWIW my 1910 Mauser side latch also has the star stamping. Would have to check if it's 5 or 6 pointed.

Bob

jamguitarist 03-12-2016 06:16 PM

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Pics of the barrel markings

tenbears 03-13-2016 04:28 PM

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Enclosed are pictures of a star on the spine of a S9805 bayonet. I have had this bayonet for many years and the star still remains a mystery. I have seen it on other edge weapons.

jamguitarist 03-13-2016 05:56 PM

There is also a 5, and what appears to be an R and a script J on the bottom of the barrel. I have yet to find anything on these markings.


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