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Good Mornin All
Well i got lucky at a local shop. Picked up a Swiss 06/24 ( my first ) and a first variation AC41 P38 that is fully matching The Swiss looks in great shape no import or P mark Sorry about the pics camera shutter is having issues time for another one The Grips are both numbered and match each other but not to the Pistol ![]() Couple questions Is ther a S/N to Mfg Year list available( it's in the 19000range)? The Toggle is not knurled, I had read some transitional Lugers have been found that have 06/29 parts, or could there be another explanation? Of course other comments and questions are always welcomed |
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Good day,
That is a nice find. It was not until 1918 that the Swiss were able to begin production, with the first deliveries of Bern manufactured 1906 Parabellums being met in 1919. My copy of 'The Borchardt Luger Pistols', on page 651, tells me that serial numbers 18751 - 20880 were produced in 1922, so that range includes your Luger. Stay safe Richard |
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I always do this and I am going to do it again...There ain't no such thing as a 06/24 Swiss.. As Richard has pointed out, Swiss production began in 1918, not 1924. Fred Datig got the wrong date information back in the 1950s from a Swiss individual that didn't know what he was talking about, and we have been stuck with that designation ever since. It is a "1906 Waffenfabrik Bern" or a "1906 W+F" if you prefer, but not 06/24.
(Nice looking gun by the way. Well done.) Ron
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rpbcps is correct that the year of manufacture is 1922.
Ron is also correct that it's a 1906 W+F or P'06 W+F as Gortz & Sturgess call it. The receiver stop lug on your Luger should have the last three digits of the serial number stamped on it and the last two digits on the rear toggle link and small parts. You have a very nice Swiss Luger. Enjoy it. |
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Nice way to start a LUGER collection!
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I'm pretty happy with my 1906 W+F ![]() The Lug and Toggle do have the S/N's and match Any toughts on why the Toggle would not be knurled? I would think 1922 would be to early for a Transitional Thanks Again everyone! |
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The toggle has been replaced post-1929. It is not uncommon to see them, and the factory repair process is well documented.
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As Gerben mentions, repair and refurbishment was common in Swiss Lugers.
When an officer retired, they had the option to acquire their service firearm, and in that process they could have it completely refurbished by the arsenal.
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Would they put a re-arsenal mark on the Pistol somewhere if they had Makes sense that it has been as the finish looks fantastic, and the bore is pristine Not a chance i'll look that good at nearly 100 ![]() |
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I have not seen any rebuild marks from Bern. They generally stamp a 6mm "P" sometimes with year of privatization.
The arsenal work is very high grade.
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Here is the 'P' mark on my Bern 06/29.
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Thanks for the info
No "P" on mine also no Import Mark that I could find The fit and finish on the Pistol is absolutely beutiful |
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